Sean Purcell and I are really figuring VA-guaranteed jumbo loans. We’re getting a steady stream of business from high-cost California counties. One of the common misconceptions is that VA loans are capped at the county loan limit, like FHA and conventional mortgages. I’m going to walk you through the formula to determine the required down payment and maximum loan amounts for VA jumbo home loans.
STEP ONE:
___Lesser of purchase price or appraised value +
___Add the 100% financing VA funding fee =
___Gross loan amount
STEP TWO:
___ VA county loan limit * (.25) =
___ Veteran’s maximum entitlement * 4 =
___ Maximum VA guaranty (including funding fee)
STEP THREE:
___ Gross loan amount (from step one) * (.25) =
___ Required Guaranty –
___ Veteran’s maximum entitlement (from step 2) =
___ Required down payment
STEP FOUR:
___ Purchase price –
___ Required down payment (from step three) =
___ Base loan amount (before adding funding fee) +
___ Applicable LTV-adjusted VA funding fee =
___ Total loan amount after down payment
Let’s try a $650,000 purchase price in Maricopa County, where the county loan limit is $417,000, for a first-time VA loan user.
STEP ONE:
$650,000 (purchase price) +
$13,975 (2.15% funding fee) =
$663,975 (gross loan amount)
STEP TWO:
$417,000 county loan limit * (.25)=
$104,250 (maximum entitlement) * 4 =
$417,000 (maximum VA guaranty)
STEP THREE:
$663,975 (gross loan amount) * (.25) =
$165,993 (required guaranty) –
$104,250 (maximum entitlement) =
$61,744 (required down payment)
STEP FOUR:
$650,000 (purchase price) –
$61,744 (required down payment) =
$588,256 (base loan amount) +
$8823 (applicable LTV-adjusted funding fee) =
$597,079 (total loan amount after down payment)
Don’t be confused by the entitlement and loan amount; just follow the formula and any VA-approved underwriter will accept your figures. As you can see, the required down payment, for this example, is only 9.4%. I’d probably round it up to an even 10% down payment so that the funding fee would drop to 1.25% instead of 1.5%. Putting down an extra $3900 saves the veteran $1625 in the funding fee.
Very few jumbo loan programs allow for a down payment of 10% with no mortgage insurance. This makes the VA-guaranteed jumbo mortgage tough to beat. The first question you ask for any loan application should be…
It could make a huge difference. Good luck and good funding.
Rick Philp says:
Very good information. Does VA refinance?
July 29, 2009 — 5:59 am
Brian Brady says:
The VA does offer refinances, Rick. A VA to VA loan can be refinanced without regard for the value of the home. A conventional (or FHA) to VA refinance allows up to 90% of the appraised value with an unlimited amount of subordinate liens. Jumbo refinances have use a somewhat similar formula to the one I explained above
July 29, 2009 — 6:46 am
Sean Purcell says:
Rick, also keep in mind that VA does not treat a rate/term refi differently from a cash out refi; they are both just refinance loans limited to 90% ltv unless they are IRRLs (the VA to VA mentioned by Brian) or you are refinancing a construction loan.
July 29, 2009 — 9:53 am
Tim and Julie Harris says:
Thanks Brian for posting this…..I learned a few things.
Tim
July 29, 2009 — 7:25 pm
David Losh says:
What is a 2.5% funding fee?
July 29, 2009 — 11:29 pm
Brian Brady says:
David,
The VA doesn’t charge mortgage insurance; it charges a “funding fee” which is a one time charge to guarantee the loan for thr lender. They allow for it to be financed.
For 100% loans, a first-time user pays 2.15%, a serial user pays 3.3%. For 95% loans, a veteran pays 1.5%. For 90% loans and below, the funding fee charged is 1.25%
July 30, 2009 — 7:29 am
David Losh says:
Who gets the funding fee? Does it go back to the VA?
July 30, 2009 — 2:24 pm