“Screwing around on social networks is fun but it isn’t gonna get me paid !”
Say it ain’t so, Joe ! I addressed this topic in my “Ninja Social Media Marketing” session at Unchained Orlando. I’ll lay it all out in Phoenix, this May. The truth is that a disciplined plan for social media participation...WITH THE IDEA OF CONVERSION in mind, can be very profitable.
The best advice I can give participants is to treat the social media platforms like a wedding reception. You would never push your business card on some unsuspecting schlub at your cousin’s wedding but you better be prepared to answer the question, “Where’s the market headed?” if asked.
What is your ultimate goal from your social media marketing? Conversion. Jeff Turner gives us a nice starting point with this quote from his panel at the NAR Convention:
Your overall business goal of social networking should be to expand your sphere and move conversations offline, panelists said. “There’s always going to be need for face-to-face communication in real estate,” Turner said. “Find a way to marry the two worlds.”
I’ll take it one step farther… I know the way to marry those two worlds. Pick up the damned phone ! In this world of hi-tech toys, the single best device you own is a real-time voice interaction tool (READ: telephone).
If you connect with someone on a social platform, you’ve exercised the second pillar of social media marketing; declaration of identity. While that can be beneficial as a standalone virtue, the hidden gold is not your new found social network contact, its buried in his contact list. In a world dominated by legislation designed to prevent you from cold-calling people during dinner, you must think creatively to build up a potential client list. Social media represents the single best way to operate within the current business unfriendly environment. Jump from the second to the fifth pillar as quickly as possible.
Remembering the wedding reception analogy, your initial call should be designed to point out a common interest and give you a chance to introduce yourself and your business. If someone has befriended you on the social platform, they saw something in your profile that piqued their interest. It could be as simple as a pretty smile or as complex as a shared political philosophy but that interest is your starting point and you can build upon that.
People who disagree with me will claim that “it’s all about the conversation online” It’s all about the conversation OFFLINE. That’s where the belly-to-belly salesmanship happens and money gets exchanged. I’ll share some of my war stories with you:
1- I met two former Marine captains on Facebook. Today, they’re hustling real estate deals in San Diego County. While searching for the keyword “REALTOR”, one of their profiles caught my attention. I figured that two Naval Academy graduates (and Iraq war veterans) probably had a pretty good work ethic. I requested to befriend them with a polite note (Facebook allows for a brief message with the connection request). That connection resulted in a meeting which has turned into $2 million in fundings over the past four months.
2- I make it a point to check LinkedIn and Facebook for all loan applicants and I add them. While I had to decline a LinkedIn connection for a loan in 2005, he has been the source of three loan fundings, from personal referrals, with $15,000 in GCI since then. 40 folks like him puts me at $200,000 GCI EXTRA, each and every year.
3- MLS on Myspace seems like a juvenile approach to social networking today. In 2006, it was the source of over $50,000 in GCI. Today, that number has dwindled with the efficacy of Myspace but the contacts I’ve made from that simple idea have been fruitful as we’ve all grown up and away from that game-changing network.
4- A testimonial on LinkedIn resulted in a second generation contact introduction. The addition to the Facebook friends list allowed me to retain “top of mind status” and resulted in a closed loan, three years AFTER the connection and answered question.
5- Finally, in what is my favorite social media contact, a single mother queried about homeownership over 13 months ago. Our connection on Facebook afforded her the casual question about mortgage finance, throughout the year, that resulted in her confidence to purchase a home for her and her daughter. That relationship was nourished with comments on her status bar, a few phone calls (my number is right on my Facebook page), and the sporadic Facebook IM conversations to alleviate her fear of homeownership. She closes at the end of this month.
Connect online and cement the relationship offline. Here are some tips to help you:
1- Upload your Outlook address book to all of your social networks. Redundancy is not bad manners, it’s a desired result. You want them to see your face every time they log in.
2- If you’re on Facebook, use the status bar to communicate what’s going on in your life but, more importantly, look and “listen” to the wonderful things happening in your contacts’ lives. I logged in to FB this weekend and discovered, to my horror, that one of my “friends” was “enjoying her nice new home in Rancho Bernardo”. I didn’t make the phone call and it cost me money.
3- Participate in the LinkedIn Q&A function. You can “listen” to the questions being asked in various “channels” or initiate one yourself. Want a simple suggestion? Ask the LinkedIn network “Does anyone think home prices have bottomed in the (Your City) real estate market? ” Be prepared to host a spirited debate from VERY smart people. Then…call everyone who replied. They don’t have their phone number on their LinkedIn profile? Google them.
4- Do you want to do business with more people like your last client? I closed a loan for a chiropractor earlier this year. I had a blast doing her loan and realized that I’m pretty good at deciphering 1040 forms. I googled her colleagues and found a gaggle of social media-crazed chiropractors. Let’s see if we have something in common… I’m good at funding loans for chiropractors and I love using social media. Point, click, dial, and “Hello, Dr Smith? I’m Brian Brady. You’re gonna love telling the story about how we met.”
5- Do you find your connecting well with a particular immigrant/ethnic group? Search that group in the “forums” and look for housing discussions. (Geno or Tom, I just found you a potential customer-click the link)
6- Finally, look for like-minded people. Check out meetup.com for a hobby group. This is a great way to interact offline with people whom you connected online. This can be a very unassuming approach to meeting new people and I recommend meetup.com for everyone. In addition to meeting new people, you might lose some weight or rekindle that loving feeling along the way.
The old saw about working smarter not harder applies when looking to convert social media contacts into customers. You can Tweet eight hours a day and you WILL find customers. That, however, is akin to standing in front of the 7-11 and handing out your business cards; both will get you results if you do it consistently. I choose a more focused (and profitable) approach to social media marketing.
Today being Veterans’ Day, I’ll paraphrase a quote from the late, salty submariner, Admiral Hyman G. Rickover:
If you want to sink an aircraft carrier, you don’t surface from afar; you surface inside the carrier’s battle group and fire upon it.
Online conversations are great but we want to fire our torpedoes with alacrity when opportunities manifest on social media. In closing, another great Rickover quote:
Good ideas are not adopted automatically. They must be driven into practice with courageous impatience. Once implemented they can be easily overturned or subverted through apathy or lack of follow-up, so a continuous effort is required.
Be courageously impatient in your continued effort on social media. Adhere to the “wedding reception rule” about behavior but always remain courageously impatient. This disciplined, results-oriented focus will reap quick rewards to the committed.
Happy Hunting!
Matt McGee says:
Damn, Brian – this is terrific. It’s posts like this that make the best advertisement for Unchained Phoenix in May. I just hope you guys don’t schedule it against an already-booked trip to NYC in May, because my wife really, really wants to be in Phoenix. 🙂
November 12, 2008 — 1:23 am
Brian Brady says:
Matt just gave me a great idea. I’ll let him log into Facebook and tell you all about it
November 12, 2008 — 1:35 am
Susie Blackmon says:
Completely unchained and out-of-control…. inspired by this great post!!
November 12, 2008 — 4:17 am
Mike Mueller says:
Another Masterpiece BB.
Pick up the Damned Phone!
November 12, 2008 — 6:54 am
Larry Brewer says:
Brian – This to me is the best advice I’ve seen. Some people think that technology will solve all their problems. Some think technology doesn’t help at all. I believe as you do, that it allows you to add to your sphere. But you still have to make that phone call. I’ll use this in my technology class Thursday if you don’t mind.
November 12, 2008 — 7:18 am
Eleanor Thorne says:
Just about spit my coffee out when I was reading your AR post! PICK UP THE PHONE! Business is done “Belly to Belly” in the South – thanks for hammering that home!
November 12, 2008 — 7:39 am
William J Archambault Jr says:
Great advice, Brian!
I met Jeff Turner last month. Two years ago you told us how likeable he is, I now agree. I had an advantage, I didn’t know he was the same man. Jeff’s a great source of technical information and social networking. It’s a pleasant enigma!
Bill
November 12, 2008 — 8:12 am
Derec Shuler says:
Great piece! This is the longer view I encourage people to take with social media. It’s not about spending time online but connecting and then taking it offline. Thanks for the stories!
November 12, 2008 — 8:21 am
Brian Brady says:
“I’ll use this in my technology class Thursday if you don’t mind.”
Go for it, Larry. If I can help you with your classes (via telephone), just raise your hand.
“Completely unchained and out-of-control…. inspired by this great post!!”
Watch Susie implement this, folks. She was with us in Orlando, last week
November 12, 2008 — 9:09 am
Dennis Blackmore says:
I love the Admiral Rickover stuff – he made my life interesting during my Naval career!
November 12, 2008 — 9:28 am
Rebecca Levinson says:
Brian,
I hear you- Meet and Greet…there’s nothing passive about networking.
P.S. I like what you did with your comments…That’s keeping laser focused on your goals.
November 12, 2008 — 9:58 am
Dylan Darling says:
Social networking is hard work. After putting time and energy into it, you definitly need to Pick Up That Phone! It’s like any other internet lead, person to person contact is the ultimate goal.
November 12, 2008 — 11:39 am
Matt Gerchow says:
Matt,
Let’s take it one-step further.
I found this post because you are one of our “Top 50” blogs. If someone wants to just be a video game / anti-social we’ll pay them for every member they send to us.
That’s a conversion mindset for the Real Estate pro without ever leaving your house.
Matt Gerchow
real-estate-investing.com
November 12, 2008 — 11:41 am
Jeff Turner says:
Brian… I know how to do it too. 🙂 And I am here to attest to the fact that you know how to pick up the phone. I said at Blogworld that the most underutilized tool in the web 2.0 space is the telephone. You nailed it.
November 12, 2008 — 12:18 pm
Linda Davis says:
Should be required reading! And the reference to Admiral Rickover was a winner here. My husband, a submariner, had the “pleasure” of being interviewed by the man himself for entrance into Nuclear Power Training. Yes, he personally interviewed every officer that was accepted. I’ll share the story sometime.
November 12, 2008 — 3:04 pm
J Boyer Morristown NJ says:
Brian, that was a very inspiring post. To date I have not used Linkedin or facebook all that much just because I really don’t understand the best approach to using them from the REALTOR point of view.
November 12, 2008 — 3:06 pm
Brian Brady says:
“I said at Blogworld that the most underutilized tool in the web 2.0 space is the telephone.”
That’s right, Jeff. I KNOW you know how to do it, as well. (Jeff and I met online and were on the phone within days of the first comment). Ask Jeff who does the best Marilyn Monroe imitation.
“I really don’t understand the best approach to using them from the REALTOR point of view.”
I’ll try to show you in blog posts but the Phx event, in May will send you home with a SMM, SEO, and SEM plan.
November 12, 2008 — 3:55 pm
Eric Blackwell says:
Brian- Thanks for sharing this outside of the conversations that we were having last weekend. It is awesome stuff and the starving real estate world needs to hear it. There is abundance.
If anyone wonders about how effective Brian truly is with this (after reading this, how COULD you be?) let me tell you. I WATCHED him DO this. I SAW him contact people using social media- on Facebook and on many other venues. It was REALLY cool to be a part of. It is UNFAIR how good he is at it…but I am not a big fan of fair. I am more a champion of champions. I love to promote those who strive. And it can be learned and applied- if we strive for it.
I even said once while in the house at Swallow Hill that it was unfair how good he and Sean were…and they both QUICKLY corrected me. “This can be learned and done…it is a skill.”
This kind of thinking is EXACTLY what fuels the spontaneous combustion that we lived in at that house. Amazing stuff, Brian.
Here’s my favorite part:
“the hidden gold is not your new found social network contact, its buried in his contact list.”
Nicely done, my friend. You have no idea how glad I am that I picked up the phone and called you back when wrote that post about “pick up the damn phone”…little did I even know…
Best
Eric
November 12, 2008 — 4:19 pm
Sean Purcell says:
Brian,
The post is dead on as usual. A map for success – simply follow the footsteps and don’t over think.
But… the links are what interest me most. I don’t know about anyone else, but I, for one, am saddened that the hobby group you found has stopped meeting. Maybe after this post they will recognize an interest and get back together. I know I support them. You know… for the exercise.
November 12, 2008 — 4:48 pm
Brian Brady says:
YOU are health conscious, Sean. You’ve been after me about my weight so maybe I should attend with you.
Linda,
Rickover is fascinating, isn’t he? What is most encouraging to me is that he was an undistinguished officer until he was in his 40s. THEN, he found this new technology (nuclear power) and adopted it. It was his ability to recognize and dominate that space that made him the American hero he is today.
Can you see why this undistinguished 43-year old mortgage broker is running towards social media, now?
November 12, 2008 — 5:58 pm
Marlow says:
Facebook has been an incredible resource for my business, but don’t think I would have got as much out of it if I didn’t have other interests outside of real estate. These other interests allow me to connect with others on a different level, so they get to know me as a person first. The real estate stuff often falls into place once we’ve become friends.
November 12, 2008 — 8:09 pm
Brian Brady says:
“I love the Admiral Rickover stuff – he made my life interesting during my Naval career!”
I see you recently joined the “Silent Service Group” on LinkedIn, Dennis. You get it.
November 13, 2008 — 11:45 am
Karl Christen says:
Your right on with this advice. I like you always talk about what I’m doing on facebook, and if I’m closing a loan or funding a loan, everyone in my network is hearing about it.
November 13, 2008 — 12:37 pm
Wayne says:
Brian
While we are in the same industry……..and no I am not here to steal your leads….Lol…..I find you thoughts candid and useful.
I’m complementing you if you know…truthfully.
Lot’s of good stuff. But how do you do it? So much techno stuff. I’m trying to learn.
Great read.
November 14, 2008 — 9:17 pm
Brian Brady says:
Wayne,
So many mortgage originators read BHB; it’s great to see a local lending member here.
You might consider attending the Unchained Univesity of Online Marketing, April 29-May 1, in Phoenix. There will be three days of practical instruction about how to properly deploy the online resources.
I’m happy to give you a preview, in my office, for you and your staff.
November 14, 2008 — 11:31 pm
Margaret Mitchell says:
Caught your post on AR & followed it here. Really good stuff.
November 20, 2008 — 5:19 am
Cathy Tishhouse says:
Brian this is great. I came over here because you were featured in ActiveRain and so glad I read the whole post. I have been using Facebook a lot more but haven’t really done much with Linkedin. I also find myself relunctant to pick up the phone and it’s all about conversion or I have wasted all the internet marketing I do.
November 20, 2008 — 8:34 am
Linda Sherman says:
Excellent post. I was just at a Chamber of Commerce meeting where we were talking about starting a technology committee to address the social networking phenomenon. so many small businesses need to understand the power of this tool (especially us over 50 folks :).
November 20, 2008 — 9:14 am
LaShea Miller says:
This would be make a great article on Inman News. Please submit this article to Inman News and expand your audience because I learned alot from the article about the pros and how-to’s of using social media marketing to generate leads and close more deals.
November 20, 2008 — 9:46 am
Sue says:
I started at AR and landed here and thoroughly enjoyed this article. Your analogy comparing the social media platform to a wedding reception is a good one…it enables you to bring people to a comfort level with you…then of course, you have to hit the phones.
November 20, 2008 — 3:38 pm
Christine says:
It looks like you have lots of good advice that makes a lot of sense about how to use social media to create business.
November 21, 2008 — 8:52 am