Do you want to see something huge in the guise of something that might seem quite small at first?
This is new software from Zillow.com. It’s supposed to go live at 9 pm PST, but it’s already working for me.
What’s different?
Look up in the upper left hand corner.
C’est moi! A photo of Odysseus. A link to my Zillow profile. A link to my email. My phone number. And a link to our brokerage’s weblog.
Even cooler is that button in the upper right hand corner:
A quick-click button to take you back to BloodhoundRealty.com.
So what’s going on here?
As of tonight, Zillow.com is “co-branding” with anyone who links to it. “Co-branding” is the kind of wine-and-cheese-PR-event deal big companies make with other big companies, but Zillow is extending the idea down to the lowliest of grunts-in-the-trenches.
(We can take a moment to snicker behind our hands. Trulia.com is building its reputation on being niggardly and hostile toward ordinary working real estate agents, so what better way to throw the whole issue into the starkest possible contrast? I don’t think Zillow approaches things this way, but the irony can’t be lost on them.)
Why does this matter? Because it’s a very reasonable response to an objection. If someone says, “Providing or promoting content on Zillow.com improves their garden but not your own,” Zillow can offer up the perfect counter: If you shed attention to us, we will make you our partner for that entire visit, and we will entreat your guest to return to you with every page that person views.
This is brilliant every way you think about it, and, of the wannabe Web 2.0 players in the real estate industry, Zillow seems to me to be the only one who really gets the whole bundle of Web 2.0 concepts: You give to get, wealth is abundant, the expectation of good behavior yields good behavior, etc.
There’s more. Zillow.com is about to introduce a ton of new widgets and gadgets, each one of which will be co-branded to the end-user. You’ll be able to post real-time mortgage quotes, for instance, and anything built with the Zillow API will be eligible for the program.
Zillow is also going to make performance-based badges available to Realtors and lenders — ranked by the number of contributions you have made to the site, I would presume — and these will also be co-branded.
What are they up to? They are rewarding you for linking to them and helping them build out their site. They are doing everything they can think of to “partner” with individual Realtors and lenders. I’ve written before that Zillow.com’s ambition is to become a net.institution like Ebay.com, Amazon.com or Wikipedia.com. This is one more step in that direction.
Not everything is sweetness and light. The Zestimate has become the favorite tool of scammers gulling thoughtless investors into thinking that there is a huge upside to be realized in lender-owned dumps. Because the Zestimate is a trailing indicator, in a declining market the Zestimate can be far higher than the actual market value of the home. I foresaw this abuse two years ago, but by now it is epidemic. Zillow is ripe with disclaimers now, where it was not in August of 2006, but fools abound.
Here’s an action item for people who are not fools: Every one of your links to Zillow, past, present and future is available for co-branding. All you have to do is add the code “/?scrnnm=YourZillowScreenName” to every link to Zillow. In other words, you can retroactively “co-brand” all your past links.
There is a sense in which this is a link-baiting strategy on Zillow’s part — and Zillow.com already has over two million Yahoo backlinks. But even looked at that way, it’s an amazingly generous gesture. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Technorati Tags: blogging, disintermediation, real estate, real estate marketing, technology, Zillow.com
Drew Meyers from Zillow says:
Thanks for a great post Greg.
And for those looking to learn more about Zillow’s new co-branding functionality, you can do so here.
July 9, 2008 — 9:05 pm
Brian Brady says:
The co-branding certainly rewards the generous ones among us who were part of the 2 million Yahoo links.
Zillow is perhaps the only realty.bot that follows through on its promises to be pro-friendly; this is just another demonstration of that philosophy
July 9, 2008 — 9:20 pm
Brian Brady says:
http://activerain.com/blogsview/586100/Zillow-Shares-The-Limelight
July 9, 2008 — 9:41 pm
Jim Gatos says:
Can someone help me talk to someone from Zillow? I tried the stuff and it won’t work. I think if someone reads this link they’ll see why. Greg, if you can get someone to talk to me from Zillow I can email you my phone number. I am just pig biting mad..
Jim
http://www.zillow.com/forum/site/ViewThread.htm?tid=36952
July 10, 2008 — 6:19 am
Greg Swann says:
> Greg, if you can get someone to talk to me from Zillow I can email you my phone number.
Do that. I’m shooting your comment through as email, too. They’re very responsive, so you should get results quickly. I’m interested to hear if Homes & Land is involuntarily creating profiles for other agents.
July 10, 2008 — 6:31 am
Michelle DeRepentigny says:
Zillow has made me 🙂 today!
July 10, 2008 — 6:40 am
Jim Gatos says:
Believe me, Greg, They are “involuntarily” creating profiles.. I don’t forget things like that… LOL..
If they are, then Zillow should have an email verification system in place maybe.. I don’t know..
Thanks, really..
Jim
July 10, 2008 — 6:40 am
Cheryl Johnson says:
The branding from the “View My Profile” button works just fine, thank you, Zillow.
But, I tried a number of variations with the code of Zillow’s Search Tool widget, and I can’t get the Zestimate landing page to “brand” when it’s accessed through the Search Tool widget. (See my comments on Brian’s Active Rain post). Is it simply not doable, I wonder?
Greg, as long as you are sending Jim’s comment off to David G, or Drew M, or whoever at Zillow, could you send along my question, too? Thanks.
July 10, 2008 — 8:06 am
Cheryl Johnson says:
Additional tidbit:
If a user clicks the Zillow “View My Profile” button, backs out, ~then~ uses the Search Tool widget, the Zestimate search results landing page is branded. So the branding is sticky……
July 10, 2008 — 8:12 am
Holli Boyd says:
Wow – great timing – I just wrote a blog post to go love tomorrow about Zillow’s Make Me Move feature – went back and changed any links to be branded. Thanks for the constant flow of great information!
July 10, 2008 — 8:47 am
Holli Boyd says:
Woops – that should be “live” not “love” maybe something subliminal? 🙂
July 10, 2008 — 8:49 am
Greg Swann says:
> If a user clicks the Zillow “View My Profile” button, backs out, ~then~ uses the Search Tool widget, the Zestimate search results landing page is branded. So the branding is sticky……
It’s just a cookie, maybe four or six hours. IOW, if one of your visitors clicks through to Zillow, abandons them and you, then goes back to Zillow, it still should be branded to you until the cookie expires.
As for the search tool, ask Drew for a new one.
July 10, 2008 — 9:32 am
Drew Meyers from Zillow says:
Cheryl-
I see that you saw my comment on Brian’s blog. For those reading this blog, here is the comment I left on Brian Brady’s blog post addressing Cheryl’s issue:
It appears the URL structure on our search interface is preventing the co-branding from working correctly when linking to our search urls. I’ll follow up with our developers, but this appears to be a software bug. We’ll work to resolve the issue as quickly as we can, but I do want to set realistic expectations — we are planning to roll out changes to our search urls that should resolve this problem, so it might not be something we fix before those url structure changes are released in the next few weeks.
Sorry I can’t give you better news like an easy fix 🙁
July 10, 2008 — 9:34 am
Drew Meyers from Zillow says:
Jim-
David G has followed up with you via phone. If any other issues come up, let us know.
July 10, 2008 — 9:51 am
Jim Gatos says:
Everyone! Thank you all so much! You guys are Bloodhounds!
David was a gentleman and yes he did take the time to hear me and help me out. He disabled the profile that Homes & Land created. For that I appreciate his time. Then I received a couple of emails for some Zillow widgets.. I am taking a little break and then I’ll work on those.
I did put a widget for my zillow profile (I think) on my blog already and I already got an email.. from a center of influence past client and friend but nevertheless he used Zillow. That shows me how advanced our clients really are… I replied and it was pretty cool..
I spoke to someone from Homes and Land and of course they were on the defensive. I told the lady I spoke to I just felt “professionally violated” that they would just open profiles like that. She wouldn’t confirm or deny anything, and told me they had permission to take the office listings and put them on feeds. I can understand them taking the listings and putting them on their “mickey mouse” free websites that they create as a compliment (please don’t do me no favors)…but how they go from their websites to zillow I don’t understand. David G. I think kinda explained it to me but I had a hard time with it. The free Homes & Land website is crappy and has old outdated info… I don’t care where they got their info, it’s their problem. I’m not wasting MY money on outdated advertising anyway.. Here is the website…
http://www.homesandland.com/Real_Estate/MA/City/Worcester/Agents/Listings/922807.html
I told the sales lady to disconnect and kill it off. I did NOT okay it; why does it even exist?
She didn’t answer, just said she’ll run it by her boss. I am going to tell MY boss next week I want NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM. I don’t need another useless and expensive “ad middleman”.. in the way..
Again, thank you everyone!
Jim
July 10, 2008 — 10:07 am
Greg Swann says:
> I did put a widget for my zillow profile (I think) on my blog already and I already got an email.. from a center of influence past client and friend but nevertheless he used Zillow. That shows me how advanced our clients really are… I replied and it was pretty cool..
That’s very interesting — that fast.
David Gibbons tells me that profiles are being set up for listings coming in via third-party feeds — which presumably means both aggregators and brokerages. Since a listing in Zillow always links back to a listing agent, the Agent info in the feed is being used to create profiles where none already exist. If, like Jim, you want to establish a profile for yourself and one already exists, you will have to “claim” it — this being analogous to claiming your house — using the email address associated with your profile. I’m thinking this could be clarified on each one of these auto-generated profiles to avoid this kind of misunderstanding. David, if I’m getting any of this wrong, please do correct me.
July 10, 2008 — 10:31 am
Jim Gatos says:
I think you’re right.. What got my goat was when I “claimed” my profile with my company’s email address (what my company provides me for an email address) I was able to “claim the profile, but I could not change the feed and where the info originated from, which in this case is Homes and Land, and to which will not agree to..
July 10, 2008 — 11:14 am
Drew Meyers from Zillow says:
Cheryl-
I checked with our developers and it seems like co-branding on search urls does work after all (I’m glad they are better at this techie stuff than I am).
Try this url (with your screen name substituted):
http://www.zillow.com/search/RealEstateSearch.htm?scrnnm=MYSCREENNAME
July 10, 2008 — 11:38 am
Sue says:
This looks very good. Bloodhound indeed. Seems like a good thing, other than Jim G’s concern.(?)
July 10, 2008 — 12:20 pm
CJ, Broker in NELA, CA says:
Drew,
Still no joy. 🙁 Here’s the complete widget code … could you have them glance at it? Maybe I’m just missing something simple. Thanks!
<form method=”get” action=”http://www.zillow.com/search/RealEstateSearch.htm?scrnnm=bobtaylorprop” name=”formSearchBar” id=”formSearchBar” target=”_blank”> <table summary=”Zillow.com Address Search” style=”width: 170px; background: #E2EEFF; border-style:solid;border-width:2px;border-color:blue; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; color: #555; margin: 15px 0 15px 0;”> <tr> <td align=”right” style=”padding: 8px 8px 3px 8px”><img src=”http://www.zillow.com/static/images/searchbox_logo.gif” alt=”Zillow.com” width=”75″ height=”13″ /></td> </tr> <tr> <td align=”left” style=”color: #d61; font-weight: bold; padding: 0 8px; font-size: 12px;”>Zillow your property! Free, instant home valuations</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign=”top” style=”padding: 5px 8px 0 8px; font-size: 10px; line-height: 1.5;”> <label for=”addrstrthood”><strong>Address (optional)</strong></label><br /> <input name=”addrstrthood” id=”addrstrthood” maxlength=”100″ style=”font-size: 10px; color: #555; border: 1px solid #8095B0; width: 99%; padding: 1px 0;” /><br /> <label for=”citystatezip”><strong>City, State</strong> OR <strong>ZIP</strong></label><br /> <input name=”citystatezip” id=”citystatezip” maxlength=”100″ style=”font-size: 10px; color: #555; border: 1px solid #8095B0; width: 99%; padding: 1px 0;” /> <input type=”hidden” name=”s_cid” value=”001″ /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td align=”right” style=”padding: 5px 8px 8px 8px”><input type=”image” src=”http://www.zillow.com/static/images/btn_go.gif” alt=”go button” /></td> </tr> </table> </form>
July 10, 2008 — 12:40 pm
Drew Meyers from Zillow says:
One of our talented developers figured it out 🙂
You need a hidden field right after the form tag that contains the screen name parameter. I guess I’m not quite as techy as you are since I can’t figure out how to paste raw html in here without it “disappearing” when clicking preview. If you e-mail me (drew m at z dot com), I’ll reply with the complete code.
July 10, 2008 — 1:48 pm
CJ, Broker in NELA, CA says:
Drew, I pasted the raw html in the comment thanks to Greg’s Proc Me tool https://bloodhoundrealty.com/BloodhoundBlog/SlashProc.php
It’s a very useful tool!
July 10, 2008 — 2:18 pm
Drew Meyers from Zillow says:
Wow, cool tool! Here you go:
<form method=”get” action=”http://www.zillow.com/search/RealEstateSearch.htm” name=”formSearchBar” id=”formSearchBar” target=”_blank”> <input type=”hidden” name=”scrnnm” value=”bobtaylorprop” /> <table summary=”Zillow.com Address Search” style=”width: 170px; background: #E2EEFF; border-style:solid;border-width:2px;border-color:blue; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; color: #555; margin: 15px 0 15px 0;”> <tr> <td align=”right” style=”padding: 8px 8px 3px 8px”> <img src=”http://www.zillow.com/static/images/searchbox_logo.gif” alt=”Zillow.com” width=”75? height=”13? /></td> </tr> <tr> <td align=”left” style=”color: #d61; font-weight: bold; padding: 0 8px; font-size: 12px;”>Zillow your property! Free, instant home valuations</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign=”top” style=”padding: 5px 8px 0 8px; font-size: 10px; line-height: 1.5;”> <label for=”addrstrthood”><strong>Address (optional)</strong></label><br /> <input name=”addrstrthood” id=”addrstrthood” maxlength=”100? style=”font-size: 10px; color: #555; border: 1px solid #8095B0; width: 99%; padding: 1px 0;” /><br /> <label for=”citystatezip”><strong>City, State</strong> OR <strong>ZIP</strong></label><br /> <input name=”citystatezip” id=”citystatezip” maxlength=”100? style=”font-size: 10px; color: #555; border: 1px solid #8095B0; width: 99%; padding: 1px 0;” /> <input type=”hidden” name=”s_cid” value=”001? /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td align=”right” style=”padding: 5px 8px 8px 8px”><input type=”image” src=”http://www.zillow.com/static/images/btn_go.gif” alt=”go button” /></td> </tr> </table> </form>
July 10, 2008 — 2:23 pm
CJ, Broker in NELA, CA says:
Woo Hoo! Thanks, Drew!!
July 10, 2008 — 2:53 pm
Stephanie Edwards-Musa says:
Wow, this is kinda cool. I signed up on zillow when everyone was still complaining about it, but I’ve had no problems with them. In fact, I have received leads.
I’ll be checking out this whole widget deal.
Drew, any chance that you will add a GREEN section to Zillow? Haven’t logged in for quite some time.
July 10, 2008 — 3:42 pm
Cheryl Johnson says:
For anyone following along, here is the widget code from Drew. It works perfectly. Thank you, Drew!
<form method=”get” action=”http://www.zillow.com/search/RealEstateSearch.htm” name=”formSearchBar” id=”formSearchBar” target=”_blank”> <input type=”hidden” name=”scrnnm” value=”bobtaylorprop” /> <table summary=”Zillow.com Address Search” style=”width: 170px; background: #E2EEFF; border-style:solid;border-width:2px;border-color:blue; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; color: #555; margin: 15px 0 15px 0;”> <tr> <td align=”right” style=”padding: 8px 8px 3px 8px”> <img src=”http://www.zillow.com/static/images/searchbox_logo.gif” alt=”Zillow.com” width=”75? height=”13? /></td> </tr> <tr> <td align=”left” style=”color: #d61; font-weight: bold; padding: 0 8px; font-size: 12px;”>Zillow your property! Free, instant home valuations</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign=”top” style=”padding: 5px 8px 0 8px; font-size: 10px; line-height: 1.5;”> <label for=”addrstrthood”><strong>Address (optional)</strong></label><br /> <input name=”addrstrthood” id=”addrstrthood” maxlength=”100? style=”font-size: 10px; color: #555; border: 1px solid #8095B0; width: 99%; padding: 1px 0;” /><br /> <label for=”citystatezip”><strong>City, State</strong> OR <strong>ZIP</strong></label><br /> <input name=”citystatezip” id=”citystatezip” maxlength=”100? style=”font-size: 10px; color: #555; border: 1px solid #8095B0; width: 99%; padding: 1px 0;” /> <input type=”hidden” name=”s_cid” value=”001? /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td align=”right” style=”padding: 5px 8px 8px 8px”><input type=”image” src=”http://www.zillow.com/static/images/btn_go.gif” alt=”go button” /></td> </tr> </table> </form>
Feel free to copy it. It is recommended that you change this item name=”scrnnm” value=”bobtaylorprop” / to your own Zillow screen name; but if you don’t I won’t complain. 🙂
July 10, 2008 — 6:15 pm
Michelle DeRepentigny says:
It’s 3am Eastern again and I’m a much happier “puppy” than I was several nights ago…I got the mortgage rates widget on my sidebar with no problem and plan to play with this on my soon to be live WP blog soon.
Like Jim, I kind of freaked a little when I went to put a listing on a few weeks ago and found it under Homes & Land, but I quickly found the way to take it over and it was actually nice to be able to just edit it instead of inputting everything. Way to guys!
July 11, 2008 — 12:11 am
Jim Gatos says:
I copied the Link exactly and put it on a text widget (wordpress) and it doesn’t look right. I can’t seem to get it to work (oh, pitiful me…, LOL) Can someone go to http://massrealestateguy.com and tell me what I am messing up. I copied the whole thing and here is what I copied …
Zillow your property! Free, instant home valuations Address (optional) City, State OR ZIP
@ Michelle.. Were you able to change the name of the website from the zillow profile? I could not..
July 11, 2008 — 7:49 am
Jim Gatos says:
Well, I did copy what drew posted 5 or so posts ago…
July 11, 2008 — 7:51 am
Kevin Warmath - Alpharetta Real Estate says:
Shaazam! Got it to work. Beware of just copying the code and pasting it into WP. The double quotes in the code above don’t work because they slant to the left. Rigth wing quotes won’t work either, i suppose. You need neutral quotes to get it to work right.
Like this:
that took we a little while to figure out ;->
As for Zillow, i remain cautiously optimistic. They are still monitizing my listings but at least they are doing so in a cooperative fashion.
July 11, 2008 — 7:58 am
Stephanie Edwards-Musa says:
I used the one from my profile in Zillow, placed it on my wp and it works fine. I think the co-brand looks nice on there.
July 11, 2008 — 8:01 am
Greg Swann says:
Depending on your sidebar’s layout, it can make sense to put the Zillow profile badge inside a
I also added a
inside the image tag, since MSIE puts an icky border around any linked image.
And because we use two different weblogs for our real estate practice, I added a
to make the Zillow page open in its own tab or window.
July 11, 2008 — 8:08 am