This came in over the transom, and I think it is a thing of beauty. The ludicrous notion that buyers don’t pay for real estate representation induces too many buyers to be lax in choosing their Realtor. Everything we do is based on delivering value, so we do best with people who are sharp enough to shop for value. When I read this in my email inbox, I sat and marveled at all that it portends.
Like this: Most internet leads stink. Suzy with no last name (aka SuZQ1983@hotmail.com) might be cute and spunky, but she’s probably not motivated, and it’s good odds she’s not financially qualified.
But: The internet enables serious people to shop until they find exactly what they want, even as it teaches them how to want wisely and in exacting detail.
And: People who shop that way will not care that a Realtor was a high school tennis star or the immediate past president of the Junior League. Everything that chummy, clubby Realtors have used forever to get by has gone by the wayside. When people finally learn to shop for value, they shop for nothing but value.
With that, permit me to introduce you to my kind of clients. The specifics have been fictionalized, but the underlying email is real:
Currently we are email interviewing several Realtors in our area of interest in Arizona. We would like your response as to whether you would be interested in having us as your clients. We have created this document introducing ourselves.
Summary:
We are a couple in our forties who are moving from the state of Washington to the state of Arizona. We have specific requirements for a house, and we have a short period to purchase it. Our current house should close at the end of June. In the event we can not purchase a house in with a close date near then, we will either rent or lease a home.
We are looking in the Glendale to Scottsdale area, and we are looking at the $360K to $460K price range.
- Who we are…
Carl Halverson, government statistician working in the US treasury department. Carl’s hobby is woodworking, and he has several large wood working tools. Carl will be working from home two or three days a week. Carl has asthma, one of the main reasons for our move.
Alice Halverson, former aerospace systems engineer, and unix administrator. Alice’s hobby is running a personal website and email server from the home.
We have no children. We lost our rottweiler last year, and we plan to bring another rottweiler into our home and therefore we need a backyard. We have also in the past have had one of our dogs die in a drowning accident at someone’s home, so we have little interest in a pool.
For us, function and structure has an equal, and sometimes greater, importance than style.
- What we would like… (understanding we may not get everything)
- A secure neighborhood, but not a gated community
- A single story preferred, 4 bedroom, 2+ bathroom in an established neighborhood. We are not interested in a new house or a very new neighborhood.
- A three-car garage or equivalent for single car storage and a workshop. We would also consider a two car garage if there was a separate shop.
- A partially landscaped enclosed (opaque fencing/wall) backyard big enough for large dogs
- No pool, a wading pool would be acceptable if it does not take up a large portion of the backyard, and is either fenced or is easily fenced.
- Either no CCR’s or one that only covers common areas – There must be no neighborhood restrictions on Carl’s workshop (noise etc…), or restrictions on the breed of pets.
- High speed DSL connectivity.
- Kitchen preferably with a closet style pantry.
- Interior laundry room because more than likely the garage will be a shop (wood dust and clean clothes don’t mix).
- Large master bedroom suite with a large master bathroom.
- Hard material floor finishes are preferred – Carpeting will have to be removed due to allergies and asthma.
- RV parking access through a side gate preferred
- Who we would like…
- A broker with experience in the area, who has completed certifications.
- Someone who understands our house requirements, and our age group.
- Someone who doesn’t object to our need for a large dog.
- Someone who will help us migrate to our new home, by providing us with good information on utilities, etc…
- Someone who can give us recommendations for contractors.
- Mistakes a realtor can make…
- Showing us property with a pool, without telling us why, first.
- Showing us houses that cannot be dog-friendly and have room for a shop.
- Inspections/Similar we will require…
- A home inspection by an investigator who belongs to a home inspection association/organization (inspection to include any pests)
- A roof inspection by a licensed company
- A electrical inspection/initial quote to convert a portion of garage space into a workshop [subpanel 100 AM, safety AFCI, GFCI].
- Specific ages of major appliances and HVAC systems
If we sound intimidating, you probably should pass on evaluating us as clients. We have had problems with realtors in the past, because we are honest people who like to be straight and forward. We will want questions answered clearly, and our concerns addressed intelligently.
This is so easy. This is a detailed road map of how to succeed — not just with these clients, but with all clients. If you treat everyone the way the Halverson’s want to be treated, you’ve got the whole thing clocked.
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Thomas Johnson says:
From the ashes of the speculative excess rises a new creature, Phoenix-like(like that?) to soar above the charred remains: The Web Enabled Thoughtful Consumer.
Please keep us posted as to your progress with the Halversons-I have no doubt that you are hired.
May 7, 2008 — 11:23 pm
Marc Rasmussen says:
I have received web leads like this in the past. I appreciate the straight forward, organized approach. However, these types of personalities generally need to see a ton of homes and tend to overanalyze the process. It is good that they mentioned a preferred closing time frame.
May 8, 2008 — 3:57 am
Jim Gatos says:
I would probably fly to Arizona to work with these guys; maybe I could get a position with the “Russell Shaw Group”? LOL…
These folks sound great… I know EXACTLY how to act, move, think, etc..
Jim
May 8, 2008 — 4:05 am
Greg Cremia says:
Leads come in all flavors. Suzy with no last name might like the internet because it allows her to be anonymous and she has no deadline. Some of the most obtuse leads have turned into wealthy buyers who wanted to remain as anonymous as possible and were not interested in spending as much as they were qualified for.
May 8, 2008 — 5:13 am
Ryan hartman says:
I agree Greg (Cremia). Seems like the real art in working the Internet lead is in getting susie-noname to gradually offer up the level of detail in the Halverson email- whether it takes 2 hours or 4 years.
May 8, 2008 — 6:26 am
Hunter Jackson says:
I would absolutely love to work with these people. A logical approach is the best way, in my opinion, that a buyer can purchase real estate.
if they want to move to SC, send’m to me.
May 8, 2008 — 6:33 am
Dave Barnes says:
As a consumer, I would hope that every consumer behaved this way.
May 8, 2008 — 7:12 am
David G says:
Nice! Is it legal to rebate a rottweiller in Phoenix?
May 8, 2008 — 7:13 am
Doug Quance says:
Although I have had clients like this in the past… and they haven’t always been easy to work with.
People often tell us that they want a red house – yet buy a blue one.
They’re definitely motivated, though… and barking up the right tree.
May 8, 2008 — 7:40 am
Greg Swann says:
> As a consumer, I would hope that every consumer behaved this way.
I’m with you. A big part of my thinking in business consists of figuring out what I would want to have happen. Then I do that. I really like people who shop hard.
May 8, 2008 — 8:26 am
Greg Swann says:
> Nice! Is it legal to rebate a rottweiller in Phoenix?
I’ve always wanted to give BloodPuppies as closing gifts, but Cathy won’t let me — all our pets are neutered. But can you imagine what North Central Phoenix could sound like at 5 am? A choir of cousins!
May 8, 2008 — 8:29 am
Josh Koop says:
@ Greg & Ryan: I agree and would also like to add that if it was my first home purchase, I wouldn’t have nearly enough buyer expertise to make the requests that the Halversons make; I might have plenty of ideas of what I want but not know how to express them. Like Ryan was getting at, it would be the task of the buyer agent to help me formulate my request so I was a shopper for value. And if my agent was able to do this with me, I would be very satisfied.
May 8, 2008 — 8:39 am
Tom Vanderwell says:
So what can we (collectively or individually) do to get more consumers to approach things the way the Halversons are and less the “I want a red house – so I’ll buy a blue one?”
May 8, 2008 — 9:58 am
Sean Purcell says:
Tom,
We’re doing it right here, right now…
May 8, 2008 — 10:36 am
Tom Vanderwell says:
Sean,
I’ve only been a BHB reader for a couple of months, and I’ve learned a TON from it as a lender, but I don’t see it as a blog that is geared toward consumers. It’s geared toward those of us who are “in the business.” Am I mistaken in that read on it?
I’d like to take the same principles and educate consumers better because that is sorely needed.
Does that make sense?
Tom
May 8, 2008 — 10:53 am
David G says:
Hi Tom –
We’ve made this happen for lenders with Zillow Mortgage Marketplace. Borrowers submit detailed requests for loan quotes. Lenders receive the requests by e-mail and respond. And then the borrower selects the lender they want to work with based on the responses they receive.
From the discussion here, it seems that there’s agreement that this could work for selecting buyers’ agents too. I’d love to hear your ideas about what the response to such a request might include.
May 8, 2008 — 11:52 am
Tom Vanderwell says:
David,
I signed up to be a lender on Zillow on April 17. Still waiting on the approval, I wonder how backlogged they are.
I like the idea of doing something like that for buyer’s agents. Let me “ponder” on that a bit.
Thanks!
Tom
May 8, 2008 — 12:17 pm
Sean Purcell says:
Tom,
I don’t see it as a blog that is geared toward consumers. It’s geared toward those of us who are “in the business.” Am I mistaken in that read on it?
As for original intent I cannot say. I, too share your instinct that this was designed more for those in the business. But the number of unique visitors to this site is staggering and I am going to guess there are a lot of clients, especially those approaching the Suzy with no last name level of sophistication, who are reading this blog on a regular basis.
When I said “We’re doing it right here, right now…” I was speaking in the royal WE. My implication was that the learning and sharing that go on here everyday are taken, by all of us, back to our respective neighborhoods and the ideas get disseminated. We (you, me, everyone participating in this educational precept) are helping clients to become more educated and more discerning
May 8, 2008 — 12:42 pm
David G says:
Hi Tom,
I just approved your application. Thanks for your patience!
May 8, 2008 — 12:42 pm
Tom Vanderwell says:
Sean,
That makes a lot of sense and I agree with you. Whether the readers are in the business like you and I, or are some of the more sophisticated potential clients, who knows. Maybe that would be an insightful poll to do some time?
David – I got the confirmation. Thank you. I’m looking forward to working with Zillow and seeing how it works out!
Thanks to all of you for making this a place that helps us all do what we do better.
Tom
May 8, 2008 — 12:56 pm
Nancy says:
>>>>I have received web leads like this in the past. I appreciate the straight forward, organized approach. However, these types of personalities generally need to see a ton of homes and tend to overanalyze the process. It is good that they mentioned a preferred closing time frame.<<<<
“These types of personalities” stay away from realtors like you because you don’t want to put in the effort to find us the right home. For “us” it’s about many things more than just finding “a” house. In today’s market if you’ve got someone clearly qualified albeit with specific criteria (which they have taken the time to clearly lay forth) you should be able to find them a “ton of homes” to choose from! If not, you’re not very good at what you do. Buyers who can buy but take their time, choose to find EXACTLY what they are looking for – and not anything less – because most likely they feel that if they are paying 6% on top of what the home is really “worth” they will wait to get EXACTLY what they want. Especially in a market where it is still cheaper to rent than buy. If you choose to move on past this potential clinet, that’s your choice. But frankly, this buyer would likely have moved past you first anyway.
May 10, 2008 — 5:51 pm
Marc Rasmussen says:
>>>>“These types of personalities” stay away from realtors like you because you don’t want to put in the effort to find us the right home.
The roughly $40 million in sales that I have done over the last 5 years solely from the internet tells me that “These types of personalities” don’t stay away from me. 😉
>>>>If you choose to move on past this potential clinet, that’s your choice. But frankly, this buyer would likely have moved past you first anyway.
I don’t see anywhere in my comment that mentions that I would move past this client.
May 10, 2008 — 6:49 pm
Nancy says:
>>>>>The roughly $40 million in sales that I have done over the last 5 years solely from the internet tells me that “These types of personalities” don’t stay away from me. <<<<<
Most anyone with an alarm clock, an internet connection and a vehicle could have sold that much in the last 5 years given the ease of financing available to anyone breathing. I personally know people that averaged 5-10M in sales since ’03 that had little to no experience when they got into this game of RE.
Your numbers don’t impress me – your attitude towards “working” for your client does – negatively.
May 11, 2008 — 2:44 pm
Marc Rasmussen says:
I’m really not here to impress you Nancy.
The $40 million was just from the internet but that wasn’t all of it. 😉
If $40 million in sales is that easy why don’t you give it a shot and see what you can do? It is only about 3-4 times the industry average. Go for it and see just how easy it is.
May 12, 2008 — 5:12 pm