Okay, I have taken a full 24 hours to digest this blogosphere debacle before offering my 2 cents. In addition I have spoken to Glen Kelman, the CEO of Redfin as we interviewed him today on our show about this..this..thing of ours.
Glen, the consummate professional as always, denounced the now infamous blog post by Ms. Hian and terminated his relationship with her. It was obviously the right thing to do by a business owner responsible for protecting his brand and company’s image.
As the captain of the Redfin ship, it was an expected response and the swiftness of his actions is commendable and an attribute to his character. Glen Kelman is first class.
Now let’s get something else out of the way early here. It is obvious from reviewing the post that Kris Berg wrote, that it was an orchestrated shot at Redfin. It was most assuredly a well planned hit. This can not be denied. Anybody taking the time to read the post can clearly see the two to the back of the head that she fired at Redfin. Was this act supposed to go without anyone seeking some form of retribution?
So now comes Ms. Hian, feeling a little bit more than put off by Ms. Berg’s swipe at Redfin, and Hian, seeking to avenge the assault on her beloved Redfin unleashes a metaphorical torrent against Berg personally. Some thought there was an anti-semitic inference in the post but this has since been found not to be the case.
Personally, I found Hian’s post a bit non-sensical and basically blew it off as another blogger taking an opportunity to take down another. Problem was she made an unsanctioned hit at a “made member”. Kelman saw it coming, tried to quell the anger of the five families of the blogosphere, but the upheaval was too great.
No one could have envisioned the absolute s*%tstorm that quickly ensued. It seems that almost every prominent blogger from the RE.net world was absolutely slamming Hian for what she had written about Berg. Fuhgettaboutit, she was done!
A ful fledged RE blogosphere whacking was in plain view. It culminated with Hian being taken for a ride and now in true Godfather form, she now sleep’s with fishes. Harsh sentence for writing a blog post but hey, ya gotta do what ya gotta do. Wow!
As I watched this unfold, it made me wonder. What did Hian do that was so wrong? Was she taken to task because she wrote for Redfin? Was she taken to task because she went after a beloved member of the RE blogosphere?
What was it that she did so wrong? I ask this because surely each and everyone of you reading this post has seen a blog war or inflammatory post by some blogger or the other. In fact many of you reading this have instigated or made incendiary personal “attacks” at many in the blogosphere.
So what was it Hian did so wrong? Is Berg beyond reproach? I have never met her and she is obviously well liked but since when did it become off limits to question someone and to hold them accountable for that which they write?
If you write a post that is designed to inflame and draw ire, are you not supposed to expect to receive some form of comeuppance? Isn’t that the reason some write controversial posts?
So what gives? To take a line from a Mel Brooks movie, “we all do it, you do it, she does it, he does it, we all do it”. Are you telling me, seriously telling me, that what Hian wrote deserved that kind of response? I am not referring to the punishment, I am referring to the response. As she wrote for Redfin, only Kelman can determine the appropriateness of sentencing and he has spoken in that regard quite clearly.
No what I am talking about is the angry, vehement response that was almost mob-like in fashion. I could almost hear Michael Corleone speaking as I read the collection of angry responses..”don’t ever take sides with anyone against the Family again. Ever”.Yeah…uddawise we’re gonna haveta whack ya..capisce?
Well, I think that while Glen at Redfin took care of what he had to take care of. In the wake of this episode, the question to me and many others remains.
What was so wrong with what Hian did? If the answer is as simple as Berg’s a friend to many and that she has many friends and she’s a made member…then fine, ok, that’s a good answer. However there has to be more here. Are you telling me that somebody got taken to task because of an inflammatory blog article? We all might as well call it a day if that’s the case!
I have read comments on many blogs and had captured many for this post, but decided this post would be much too long if I posted a list of comments from the many blog wars I have read about or participated in.
Many of the posts and comments I have seen on some blogs were far, far, more incendiary and there was nothing remotely close to the type of sanctioned assassination that was executed on Ms. Hian.
So, it just makes me and many others wonder as to the hypocrisy of the reaction by some who sought Ms. Hian’s head on a platter.
I am not condoning what either Ms. Berg or Ms. Hian wrote. If it weren’t for the fact that she wrote for Redfin we would probably not even be talking about this.
C’mon, let’s be real here. If Ms. Hian had her own blog this kind of blog war would have driven traffic to both of the combatants blogs and shot after shot would have been taken. Ms. Berg’s supporters would have been in her corner and Ms. Hian’s supporters would have had her back.
We’ve all been there and done that. The problem here is Ms. Hian left her rear flank open and was vulnerable. Her weakness was exploited and she was taken down hard and fast. She had Fredo guarding her and she got whacked. Mission accomplished. Hian miscalculated her strength and obviously underestimated her opponents strengths. Maybe she should have dressed up Enzo the Baker as a thug to scare off the hitmen that came calling after her.
However, it’s safe to assume, that if she had not been a contributor on Redfin’s blog, if this was a post on her own blog somewhere in WordPress land, she would still be around today. Although the uproar may have been as strong, it would not have ended up with her being rubbed out.
Obviously if she had an Active Rain blog, or if she wrote for us or if she wrote for Bloodhound or a number of other sites, do you think her execution would have been so swift, if at all?
Of course not! Hian screwed up, she did not know her place and she was felled by the support of an obviously better armed opponent..and worst of all she fought her battle on someone else’s turf. She was doomed before she finished typing.
Let’s not kid ourselves. We have all been offended by something someone wrote on a blog somewhere. We’re all adults. People regularly take personal attacks on the President, on many a politician, on sports figures, on actors, on Britney…you name it, personal attacks are a part of life if you place yourself in the public eye. Ever take a gander at some of the content on the Huffington Post or Daily Kos?
The expectation of a personal attack is magnified if you write something that is unpopular or deemed controversial. If not so, why write such a post? Answer: You want someone to read what you wrote..that’s why.
Ms. Berg took a shot, it provided tremendous exposure for her, drove a great deal of traffic to her blog and I applaud her for being the “Google pandering ho” that we all aspire to be. I mean that in quite the Tomlinsonian type of way.
RIP Ms. Hian, you drew snake eyes on this one. You went against the family and got a visit from Al Neri. Next time do a bit more research, pick your battle correctly and make sure your base is secure in case you need to retreat or have support if necessary.
Michelle DeRepentigny says:
It was the ridiculing of the food drive she planned and executed to the benefit of her community that made me nauseous.
I don’t get into the blog war/flame thing often, but to ridicule a food drive in the manner she did was beyond socially acceptable, in my opinion.
April 24, 2008 — 8:08 am
Greg Swann says:
I applaud you for taking this on, Barry. Hian had every right to speak her mind, even if she alone apprehends the contents.
FWIW, there is no way to use the words “bitter herbs” correctly in English except as a reference to Passover. It’s plausible to me that Hian does not know how to use the words correctly, but no one, to my knowledge has said anything about this one way or another.
April 24, 2008 — 8:12 am
Barry Cunningham says:
Hi Michelle…thanks for the comment I accept your explanation. I don’t believe it’s cause for termination and upheaval..but that’s my opinion. I respect yours.
Greg, I think it needs to be discussed and the “bitter herbs” reference was kind of weird. Not being Jewish I had to turn to some Jewish associates to understand how that statement can be construed.
April 24, 2008 — 8:18 am
Tom says:
Barry
Excellent post and a great deal of truth in it.
She was whacked but there is also the reason she got whacked. If she was responding to one of Kris’s posts on bashing Redfin it would have been a fair fight.
If she had gone after Kris on a competitive topic in the real estate sphere it also would not have risen my ire.
But instead it was a personal slam on a post about doing some good. Let’s face it, real estate agents get slammed all the time but when someone is doing good in the community even competitors give kudos. just common manners.
But instead Hain drew blood on the safe ground without the sanction of a hit to use your analogy. Even the dumbest wiseguy knows that some areas are off limits. You do not whack a guy at the club on girlfriend night so to speak. If you do, it has to be sanctioned.
Well, food drives and public service time in the real estate world fits that bill. This is the neutral territory that is respected, locally, nationally, and in the blogosphere.
Hain violated the understanding, got deservedly whacked, and took a huge hit to her online reputation. Case closed.
April 24, 2008 — 8:22 am
Barry Cunningham says:
Thanks Tom, I am beginning to see the picture with a bit more clarity.
So it was questioning the food drive that was the main issue here? And accordingly it was grounds for termination. Ok. I respect your point of view. Thanks.
April 24, 2008 — 8:34 am
Tom says:
Not sure if it related to how others reacted but that was my impression. Others may have smelled blood and dove in for the kill. 🙂 (ie Not a herd but a pack)
April 24, 2008 — 8:39 am
Cari McGee says:
Barry,
As someone who took a stupid shot at Glenn Kelman about a year or so ago on my blog, and who received a lot of traffic but COULDN’T SLEEP AT NIGHT because I felt so bad about what I had written, I can tell you what Carol did wrong. She made a personal attack on someone who had made an attack on a COMPANY. Had she lambasted Glenn as a person, and made wild claims (“Glenn likes to drink strawberry-flavored milk while perusing online the listings in areas Redfin has yet to create a presence and laughs maniacally while doing so…”), that would have been one thing. If that personal attack on Glenn upset Carol, then she could feel free to call into question Kris’ behaviors. I feel that Glenn probably still would have terminated his relationship with her for putting it on a company blog, because that seems to be the kind of decent guy he is.
Carol should not have used the large platform she had to disparage Kris as a person, when what Kris did was disparage Redfin, as a company.
April 24, 2008 — 10:06 am
Cari McGee says:
I’m sorry, the ‘she’ below is Kris Berg.
“Had she lambasted Glenn as a person, and made wild claims…
April 24, 2008 — 10:14 am
Barry Cunningham says:
Thanks Cari…So it was questioning the food drive and going after her personally that was the problem.
So it’s bad to go after a blogger personally. Ok. I respect your point of view. Thanks.
April 24, 2008 — 10:31 am
Daniel Rothamel says:
All the points brought up here have been good ones. For me, I looked at it from a brand/corporate perspective. As you pointed out, Barry, Hian didn’t do this on her OWN blog, she chose to use the access and influence of Redfin to do it. Would she have received the same response had she done this on her own forum? Probably. Would it have taken a little longer? Probably. The moral of the story from that perspective is– when a lot of eyes are watching you, be aware of what you are doing.
We all know this. If I were sitting in my bathroom ranting about something, no one hears me, so no one cares. Now, if I go on the radio or TV and rant, that would be a whole different story, wouldn’t it? Audience matters.
Everyone has a right to say whatever the heck they want. No one has a right to say it WHEREVER the heck they want. Hian’s existence on the Redfin Blog was at the leisure of Redfin. Perhaps she took that for granted. I have no idea. She wasn’t just speaking for herself, she was implicitly speaking on behalf of Redfin.
It is fine for me to act however I want in my own home, when I someone’s guest, however, the rules change.
Like many have said, her post made little sense from any angle, but she learned very quickly that people were paying attention. Many of those people were consumers that were put off or offended by the post. That is a problem for the Redfin brand.
April 24, 2008 — 11:17 am
Barry Cunningham says:
Well said Daniel!
But one question..was what Kris Berg said about Redfin harmful to the Prudential brand?
April 24, 2008 — 11:22 am
Russell Shaw says:
This is a well written post, Barry and (like Greg already said) shows an ability to look at an issue with fresh eyes.
I do not believe what Kris said on her blog would be harmful to Prudential. Kris has met Glenn and has said kind things about *him*, while saying unkind things about Redfin. Carol wasn’t simply giving her opinion – which she has a complete right to do – she was a paid writer for a company. What was “wrong” was (as Daniel pointed out) giving that opinion as though it was the opinion of the company. Was it as stupid post? Yes. But what made it “wrong” was her giving her opinion from the Redfin blog – making it come from them.
April 24, 2008 — 11:39 am
Todd Carpenter says:
It doesn’t matter what Kris said. It doesn’t matter what Carol said either. When you attack someone, it’s always more likely you wile attract a negative response from the attacked, and from the attacked’s fans.
Kris knows this. I bet Carol does as well. Everyone has a right to say what they said, including the “Five Families”.
Carol’s only mistake was to say it as a representative of a company who does not share her opinion. For this Carol deserved what she got, and would have deserved it, even if the only person who was offended was Glenn himself.
April 24, 2008 — 11:40 am
Bob Wilson says:
Doubtful. Agent blogs are for the most an extension of the agent brand, not the company. As Daniel pointed out, Hian was speaking as Redfin.
April 24, 2008 — 11:45 am
Daniel Rothamel says:
Barry,
To answer your question, I don’t know. Probably not, considering that she didn’t link to Prudential pages, or events or mention Prudential. At least, not that I can recall. Her blog isn’t branded with Prudential all over the place, I would imagine that, in Kris’s mind, her brand is her and Steve. I least, that is what I hope.
That being said, if Prudential wanted to shut her down, they certainly could. That is precisely why me, my wife, and my mother-in-law started an independent brokerage.
Although, if Prudential were to try and shut down Kris and Steve, they should probably look in the shadows for the bloggers in black suits with baseball bats. 😉
April 24, 2008 — 11:46 am
Barry Cunningham says:
Todd..I knew you would feel this way..we are in agreement here!
April 24, 2008 — 11:51 am
Bob Wilson says:
Question:
Redfin isn’t going to put anyone out of business. Why the need for bloggers to attack in the first place?
I know the answer will be because Redfin attacked first, but Redfin attacks the model, not a specific business entity. Kelman and his company get ripped on a regular basis, yet none of the staunch defenders of the vaunted and bloated Code of Ethics ever step up and mention that it’s against the Code of Ethics to criticize another broker. Why is that?
April 24, 2008 — 12:08 pm
Josh says:
Barry
You, better than most, know what it is to inflame a large group of people. I agree with about 1 out of every 10 assertions you make. Between the lines you’re even a bit condescending at times. But what you’ve never done is called someone names (Ken and Barbie) or disparaged on something as noble as a food drive.
If Kris had decided to show your radio show in an unpleasant manner on her blog, with nothing but opinion, you’d have probably responded. If you responded with the post we’re speaking of, on this blog, I feel the response would be the same.
I’m sure you don’t agree completely, or maybe disagree wholeheartedly?
What’s your take?
April 24, 2008 — 12:08 pm
Rob Hahn says:
Echoing what most of the commenters are saying — personal attacks were what caused Hian’s termination. Redfin has every right to defend its brand as it deems fit.
But there is another angle to this as well, which is directly relevant to the political blogosphere you referenced (HuffPo and Kos). The minute you resort to ad hominem attacks, you have lost.
Flame on if you want as long as you don’t weaken yourself by going for ad hominem attacks.
If I were Glenn, I would have terminated her just for that. I don’t want losers on my corporate blog.
-rsh
April 24, 2008 — 1:45 pm
Barry Cunningham says:
Great comments and information all. We spoke about this today on our show and the branding issue compelled Kelman to react.
I agree it was the wrong place for her to wage ger assault.
The post as we all know was so obviously incoherent that I really don’t know what she had a problem with but it’s obvious that the “barbie and ken” reference seriously ticked off some people.
If Carol was trying to question the motive behind the food drive she could have done so without resorting to speaking in a manner that causd harm to Redfin.
Like Daniel said..she should have known better or had her own piece of the blogosphere.
Josh above took a shot at me, called me condescending at times..do I respond viciously or let it go…I think you have to pick your battles and in this instance it was not the proper place to engage.
April 24, 2008 — 3:31 pm
louis@homegain.com says:
Ok, Barry
Now I am offended!
How dare you besmirk me and all the honest hard working Italian-American bloggers by making reference to an organization that we all know does not exist!
I respectfully request that Greg take this post down (or else) 🙂
April 24, 2008 — 3:46 pm
Geno Petro says:
And THATS ^ why I always leave the gun and take the cannoli.
April 24, 2008 — 4:46 pm
Josh says:
Take a shot? No. I think you know that. I gave an opinion, and I’m sure I’m not an island on this one. Regardless even if I am, it’s my opinion. You’re free to disagree. This blog encourages it. I’ll even grant that particular part of my comment wasn’t necessary to ask my original question, which wasn’t addressed by you. BTW, you didn’t address that I was building up to the point that you keep things business like and unpersonal (a compliment).
If you’d like to read my comment again and address my request for your opinion, great. If not, that’s fine too.
Kind Regards
April 24, 2008 — 5:39 pm
Barry Cunningham says:
Josh..don’t sweat it..was making light of things.
Are you asking if I was attacked in the same manner would others come t my aid (as if I needed it) No..it happened (here) and no there was no outcry and trust me it was worse than being called “barbie”…but I did not seek the head of the author.
Louis..please..no more buttons pushed..please! 🙂
April 24, 2008 — 6:34 pm
Louis Cammarosano says:
Don’t worry Barry if any buttons are pushed we will have plenty of buffers.
April 24, 2008 — 6:44 pm
Kevin Tomlinson says:
I’m a CONCEPT……I LOVE IT!
April 24, 2008 — 7:27 pm
Kevin Tomlinson says:
Barry,
I really applaud you for outing everyone’s true blogging objectives as “google pandering ho’s'”
April 24, 2008 — 7:31 pm
Eric Blackwell says:
I think it was entirely Kris’ right to freely take on Redfin. It was Carol’s right (although ill advised) to personally attack Kris and JUST AS MUCH it was Glen’s right to show someone (a paid blogger) the door.
I personally love the fact that we have the freedom to speak openly.
There is a difference, however, between can and should…I think Carol crossed that line (as many bloggers do at times, myself included.) without so much as slowing down.
Any personal attack usually causes more harm to the attacker. (as was said above).
Just my opinion.
April 24, 2008 — 7:42 pm
Laurie Manny says:
Kevin sent me a link to this latest reality show. Thank you Kevin, without you I would be totally out of touch. I am pleased to say that I missed this entire episode. Too busy selling real estate and sending dead fishes wrapped in newspapers to short sale banks!
April 24, 2008 — 8:26 pm
Laurie Manny says:
Yes Kevin that makes you a comment pandering ho too, lol.
April 24, 2008 — 8:27 pm
Kevin Tomlinson says:
Laurie
I’ll take it all. I tell everyone “Laurie Manny scares me –don’t scr*w with her.”
April 24, 2008 — 8:37 pm
Laurie Manny says:
Bad boy! (it’s why I luvs u)
April 24, 2008 — 8:38 pm
Kevin Tomlinson says:
I have a thought(no joke!):
If you were Prudential reading Berg’s post, would you have a problem with it?
Actually, I think I might. Actually, I know I would.
April 24, 2008 — 8:51 pm
Barry Cunningham says:
Uh oH…here goes Kevin and Laurie!
And Kevin thanks for the refreshing answer.
April 24, 2008 — 9:17 pm
Kevin Tomlinson says:
Everyone knows I love Kris B. That’s wasn’t meant to be “disrespectful.”
Hoping, praying that I don’t get rubbed out.
April 24, 2008 — 9:54 pm
Mary McKnight says:
My hats off to Glen for taking such swift and decisive action. To attack a food drive instead of the post about RedFin was just ridiculous and like Barry said- nonsensical.
April 25, 2008 — 6:27 am
Melina Tomson says:
I read Kris’ post and it was a clearly sarcastic attack on the Redfin model and services. I think a rebuttal post was totally appropriate, but it was not a rebuttal on the “traditional” model.
I think the Ken and Barbie comments were out of line, as well as the food drive. What’s that about??
I do agree that if Carol did not work for Redfin this would not have exploded as badly. Kelman has made comments in the media that have made him a target in the industry, and so any missteps will tend to bring on a much larger repurcussion than if he had not been on 60 minutes.
Dialogue is the essence of blogging, but in real estate we need to talk about the industry and models, as there are some serious issues that need to be talked about. Putting someone down by calling them Barbie and Ken implies that they are superficial, and that they didn’t have good intentions with their food drive.
Whatever Carol was going for with her post didn’t work.
April 25, 2008 — 2:45 pm
TheRECoach says:
Barry, I couldn’t just comment on this post. I had to Blog about it…http://therealestatecoach.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/in-the-world-of-real-estate-blogs-this-would-be-david-vs-goliath/
As I have said before, I admire your skills as a writer, just think you cross the line at times, and this is one of them. the term “HO” is unacceptable in any form.
The Coach
April 25, 2008 — 2:49 pm
Greg Swann says:
> the term “HO” is unacceptable in any form.
I didn’t catch this when you posted it or I would have killed it for flame-baiting.
So you know, this is the United States. No one tells anyone else what what they may or may not say. Please visit our About page to review our comments policy.
April 25, 2008 — 7:08 pm
Kevin Tomlinson says:
A little birdie dropped by my site and “mentioned” that Kris B. may be a little “hurt” by my comment:
>>If you were Prudential reading Berg’s post, would you have a problem with it?
Actually, I think I might. Actually, I know I would.
That comment wasn’t at ALL meant to hurt. I think it may show some of the reality of blogging, and blogging for business under someone else’s brand.
I know that with my company, EWM, they are very protective of their brand, and they have a right to be.
If I was out their writing “BHB-style,” I’m sure I would be asked to leave.
So, there are really volatile subjects I would love to blog about and here is what goes through my mind:
1. Will it bring me more business?
2. Will my real estate clients care about it?
3. Will my company have a problem with it?
I’m a business blogger; I blog for real estate clients. I like my blog to be, as Laurie Manny and Brian Brady call it, ” a perfectly boring blog.”
Ok, let’s put it this way: If you were an executive for CB, would you be concerned if agents affiliated with your brand were out there “stirring up the pot” under your brand?
Kris:
Please don’t be hurt. Wasn’t meant to dis YOU in any way at all. I think for those of us who blog for larger corporations, the looming “corporate suit” lurks in all of our heads.
I’m so gonna get rubbed out.
April 26, 2008 — 11:32 am
Kevin Tomlinson says:
All-
I just rec’d ANOTHER e-mail suggesting that the term “Google-pandering ho” was considered by some to be an insult.
FYI- The term GPH (we now have an acronym) was coined by Beth Butler for me. It is not a term used or coined for Kris Berg, it was actually coined for moi.
I take no offense; and actually consider it kind of funny, as I don’t take this so seriously.
I can understand that Kris may be on-guard right now — but I don’t think Barry or anyone else who uses the term (GPH) actually likens the person to an actual prostitute.
April 26, 2008 — 11:40 am
Louis Cammarosano says:
On the subject of GPH’s, I was speaking to Brian Brady the other day and I remarked that I thought it real constraint that in order to get read, one must learn to as Mary McKnight notes “Write for Google”.
Brian dismissed the concept and we moved on to other topics.
Another way to get read I suppose is to insult a well connected person and light up twitter.
As I write this I just received an email alert regarding a comment on the inman blog. A rookie real estate broker notes that she had been writing to please google and had been on page one as a result. Recently, she was dropped to page nine. As a result she as decided to stop trying to keep up with Google and write what she want to writes.
While the term GPH may be off color it does indicate that one may need to compromise one’s writing in order to get read.
THE bhb appears to get read for its content, not its Google results.
Greg, aside from an article like Brian’s one on Ashley Alexandra Dupre, is most of your traffic a result of Google or of natural visitors? (I confess that I type in “bloodhound blog” EVERYTIME in order to access the site)
April 26, 2008 — 12:07 pm
Kevin Tomlinson says:
Greg
Can you get a shorter, easier url for us. I have to do the same thing.
I not a feed reader type.
April 26, 2008 — 12:18 pm
Greg Swann says:
> Greg, aside from an article like Brian’s one on Ashley Alexandra Dupre, is most of your traffic a result of Google or of natural visitors?
We have never written for search engines, allowing for Dr. Brady’s Mad Science Experiments. We’re all about the content, so we would never sacrifice reader interest for search results. Even so, we have a huge content base by now, so we do get a lot of inbound search traffic. We’re not doing anything active to convert or retain those visitors, but I know from my mail that a lot of people find us for the first time by search.
> (I confess that I type in “bloodhound blog” EVERYTIME in order to access the site)
BloodhoundBlog.com will get you here. But: You need a feed reader.
April 26, 2008 — 12:19 pm
Greg Swann says:
> Can you get a shorter, easier url for us.
Just the word
bloodhoundblog
in the URL window will bring you here.
April 26, 2008 — 12:24 pm
Barry Cunningham says:
I don’t write for Google on my blog as there are way too may subjects..when it makes sense though is on the real estate blog we are beta testing to draw those specific for a certain farm area.
It would be impossible for me to write for google. Like Brian did with the brilliant Ashley Dupree post, occasionally my posts are based off of current news events and media stories so I get some piggy-back off of that but nto directly.
As for the now GPH moniker, it’s meant in jest, and I am not ashamed to be under the auspices of that umbrella. If Kris thought it meant she was a prostitute..well I won’t go Hianish here but…well…you know
C’mon people, we are blogging, writing, if one does not want to be on the field, stay in the stands.
Bottomline, if you don’t want people to react, then make sure your posts are vanilla in nature and no problem. Does anybody think that Kris wrote that post expecting no one to take opposition. Hian may have went overboard but somebody was clearly going to respond.
Kevin is right..get a grip and get over it.
Keeping with the theme of this article and remembering what Doc Brady once said,in the words of Hiram Roth..”this , is the business, we’ve chosen.”
April 26, 2008 — 1:21 pm
Mary McKnight says:
Come on everyone- let’s lay this Google Pandering Ho bit to rest. While that may not be a professional term in the SEO industry – the following are:
1. Professional Link Baiters are called “Master Baiters”
2. Eric Ward (the foremost authority on Link Building) coined the term “link whore” to describe certain gray hat linking activities.
Google Pandering Ho shouldn’t sound quite so bad now.
If you are so sensitive to be offended by a witty play on words about having a successful website or blog that does well in Google (which I am sure is all that Kevin and Barry are saying), you need to grow some thicker skin. I mean, you are here, reading Bloodhound, this is where thick skin is put to the test. In fact, I am convinced Greg has a secret underground lair where scientists busily depth test epidermis layers then Grade A certify the ones that pass.
Kris, I am sure has thick skin – as do most successful women. Fact is- her attack was on a Company and a business model. Hain’s attack was on Kris, the person. It was small, childish and unprofessional. But mostly it showed a lack of skill on Hain’s part. She ought to have argued the merit of the RedFin model rather than call a dissenter names.
April 26, 2008 — 4:56 pm