In just the past couple weeks alone I’ve read over a dozen blog posts declaring a paradigm shift in real estate — specifically in what it takes to succeed as an agent. Before I continue, it’s not my intention to offend anyone in any way whatsoever. Seems about 2-3 times a year I manage to step in it big time, causing some sorta perfect $#%storm of wounded egos and/or encroached empires of ideology. This should be filed under, ‘Hey, I’m just sayin” and leave it at that.
Look at the history of the car, beginning at the turn of the 20th century. Going out on a limb, I’d say far less than 1% of the population had seen one, much less owned one. Now look at today’s car. A paradigm shift? Not in my thinking. They still require gas, a driver, a drive train, and brakes. A 1908 Ford got you from point A to point B faster and more comfortably than a horse — and so does the 2008 model. Yet many would say due to the myriad improvements over the last 100 years there’s been some sort of paradigm shift from 1908 to now.
Show me. Where is it? Does the ’08 version fly? Does it drive itself? Does it make its own fuel? No, it gets us from A to B faster and more comfortably than a horse. A paradigm shift was when the car replaced the horse.
Segue to real estate brokerage.
It was Saturday in the middle of a cloudy October in 1969 when I first stepped into a real estate office as a licensed agent. Not much has changed in the ‘paradigm shift’ kinda way.
Before you start your enraged fingers racing over your keyboard, read on.
Sure, there were no computers, no internet, no 2.0, not even 1.0 — hell we were barely 0.0 back then. Still, we did then what we do today. We seek opportunities to get in front of qualified prospects in order to make our living. We took listings, represented buyers, used the MLS, had to deal with contracts, dealt with lenders, escrows and the like.
Hey, wait just a doggone minute. Isn’t that what we do today too? So where’s the so called paradigm shift we keep hearing about? This doesn’t even address the fact that more agents working the old school way are making six figures than those traveling on Hiway 2.0. In fact for every 2.0 expert doing six figures there’s probably 100 old schoolers doing the same, probably better, and right in their backyard. Ouch, betcha that hurt.
I’d be willing to go out on a limb and guess that 80-100% of all house agents making a million bucks a year pre-tax are old school — and laughing all the way to the bank. Paradigm shift my old school ass.
Will there eventually be more of those mega-producers via Hiway 2.0? Sure — I’d even go as far as to say it’s inevitable. Even when it happens, if it hasn’t already, it won’t be evidence of any paradigm shift. Like the Fords, agents will still be gettin’ themselves in front of qualified prospects in order to make a living. Where’s the big change? It’s marketing hype put out from those selling websites, SEO gurus, and blogging wizards.
A paradigm shift is science figuring out the universe doesn’t revolve around our irrelevant little planet. Or that the earth is round instead of flat. Those are paradigm shifts.
Segue to Hiway 2.0 and my favorite urban myth.
There are some bona fide experts out there. I know there are because I’ve met some of them in person. They’ve successfully designed their websites and blogs to generate leads. Some of them are quite adept at it. If you want the real story though, you’ve gotta look below the surface. Let’s use baseball as a metaphor.
(Baseball purists — please allow me to ignore the difference between plate appearances and at-bats. Thanks.)
Every time you come up to the plate, it’s called a plate appearance. Hint: Ballplayers aren’t paid by how many plate appearances they have. We’ll call that a lead. If the batter gets a hit of some kind, his batting average climbs. If he makes an out it falls. We’ll call a hit a converted lead — or more succinctly a closed escrow, enhancing the agent’s bank account. The big hitters in baseball make the big bucks, as do the agents closing dozens if not hundreds of transactions yearly.
See where this is going?
Let’s just skip to the bottom of the 9th, alright?
If agent Alfred relies on his old school ways and closes on 30% of his leads, and generates 600 leads a year, he closes 180 transactions.
If agent Martha, who relies virtually entirely on good ol’ Hiway 2.0 and generates more leads per month than Alfred does in a year, how does it all wash out? Let’s do some numbers.
Martha generates 601 leads a month, yet closes on less than way less than, 3% of them, closing about 100 transactions a year.
Where’s the beef?
The point here isn’t that websites and blogs aren’t generating leads and closed transactions, ‘cuz they are. That’s beyond debate by any rationally thinking person. Hell, I do it all the time. Still, everyone raise your hand if you know of one agent out there generating leads that are generally worth more than a used Snickers Bar? Don’t answer, its’ a rhetorical question.
Are there champion bloggers out there kickin’ ass and takin’ names? You bet. I’ve met them online, in person, and/or via phone. Their stories are almost canned they’re so similar. Their leads are legion but their batting averages suck beyond belief. That said, they’ve devised such ingenious systems, they’re still managing to laugh all the way to the bank.
Most won’t admit it, but they’re hoping one day to actually produce as many deals as the old school agents. So far all they’re doing better is generating mostly worthless leads.
And there you have the latest urban myth — these blogging Kings/Queens are walking up to the plate 10-20:1 times more a year than their old school counterparts. They just haven’t figured out yet how to make as much money.
How might the agent reading this benefit from the above truisms?
How ’bout combining the old school with Hiway 2.0 for the best of all worlds? That’s not a new thought by any stretch, but you’d think it was as you read about all the paradigm shifting going on. A lead worth less than a used Snickers Bar is actually quite expensive in terms of time wasted. They’re not leads at all, just dolphins caught in the tuna net of blogs and websites — exciting to watch but worthless in the end. In fact, at least a used Snickers Bar offers good taste and a dollop of useable energy.
How one might combine the two different approaches can be learned this coming May. Until real estate’s online presence rises, relatively speaking, to the level of changing the perception of earth’s shape, let’s back off the hyperbole, ok?
Paradigm shift indeed.
Brian Brady says:
“How ’bout combining the old school with Hiway 2.0 for the best of all worlds? That’s not a new thought by any stretch, but you’d think it was as you read about all the paradigm shifting going on.”
Is it any wonder why you’re speaking at Unchained?
March 15, 2008 — 8:36 pm
Doug Quance says:
Point well taken, Dr. Bawldguy.
Technology does not replace what is done… just simply how it is done.
March 15, 2008 — 9:24 pm
Sean Purcell says:
Let’s use baseball as a metaphor
OK… “You’re killin’ me Smalls”
I just get comfortable with the idea that the Bawld Guy next door is actually a 2.0 guru and you tell me that I better start knocking on doors again! I can not wait to see how you bring all this together at Unchained.
March 15, 2008 — 9:26 pm
Jeff Brown says:
Brian — We’ll have to wait and see. 🙂
Doug — Mom will be pleased someone called me ‘Dr.’ without laughing first.
Sean — If there’s anything more old school than hyper-local blog, I wouldn’t know what it was.
‘You’re killin’ me Smalls’ — Sandlot is one of my all time favorite movies. Kinda sad, isn’t it?
March 15, 2008 — 9:36 pm
Sean Purcell says:
Old school and Sandlot: You’re preaching to the choir brother…
March 15, 2008 — 9:43 pm
BenjaminBach.com says:
It’s interesting Jeff – I have often wondered whether inevstment real estate was more conducive to blogging for business – in residential, they alawys say people are looking for properties online, not agents.
With investments, people wan’t knowledge, advice and wisdom, which is easy to convey in a blog – if ya got it 🙂
My blog has been quite succesful for me in generating business – real clients buying real properties – but 60% of my revenue is still traced back to relationships I’ve made offline.
BenjaminBach.com
March 16, 2008 — 4:56 am
Mike Farmer says:
Many people have written about the new technology being built on the old structure — one reason third world companies fail with new technology, becasue they don’t have the old structure to build on.
I think it is Kevin Kelly who recently talked sabout leap-frogging/paradigm shifts being rare, because we mainly build on the old structure.
He did say that once the older structure becomes sizable, that leap frogging may happen more often, just not yet.
March 16, 2008 — 9:36 am
Hi! I'm Rudy from Trulia. Hi Jeff... says:
Hi Jeff!
“I’d be willing to go out on a limb and guess that 80-100% of all house agents making a million bucks a year pre-tax are old school — and laughing all the way to the bank. Paradigm shift my old school ass.”
Yup – All of the agents I know that are making this kind of coin are in fact old schoolers and darn good agents at that. They must be doing something right 🙂 If there are any web 2.0 or hybrid [old/new school] real estate agents out there who are the top producers in their office, I’d love to hear about your success story.
As far as a paradigm shift, I agree with you – not yet. However, there is a slow but steady shift that is occurring – just look around – we are the shift! It’s all of us who take the time to blog and who actively participate on social networks that are leading the battle cry. Collectively, the group is rather small when compared to the sheer number of licensed agents around the nation but as you know, our voice strong – the higher ups are listening. This I have no doubt about.
I am seeing more and more major brokerages, mls’s and executives incorporate our web 2.0 mentality into their office culture. Some get it more than others but they are making some changes, which is good for the industry as a whole.
So as Brian has been saying for some time now, agents better start moving fast because the big boys are catching up. It’s about to get really interesting….
Rudy
March 16, 2008 — 11:06 am
Dave Shafer says:
If any of those models that try to skip the middleman (realtor) actually works, then you might have a paradigm shift!
Actually, I have blogged on this. I believe we are in a paradigm shift that places the responsibility for investment decisions and retirement income on to the individual away from the companies they work for, investment companies who offer advice for a hefty fee, etc.
However, for folks like realtors, insurance advisors, certified financial planners, etc. there will be plenty of work for those that add real value to the process for a good while.
Down the line, I think we will all will be dinosaurs. I know this is going to happen to mortgage originators as transparency and the lack of value most offer catches up with the industry.
March 16, 2008 — 11:54 am
Mariana says:
I understand your view on “paradigm shift” and I respect your thoughts on it. I also see a lot changing in the ways of real estate and seeing a lot of waysofdoingbusiness being replaced by newwaysofdoingbusiness. eContracts are replacing print-and-sign contracts. Virtual tours are replacing showings. etc.
Yes. There is a lot of the business that remains the same, but the systems and tools that surround the business ARE being replaced by better systems and tools… and THAT is where the shifts are happening.
I like your baseball analogy. However, each persons “conversion” ratios will be different, regardless of their approach. Also, the personality of each agent will need to be taken into consideration: Some people hate to door-knock and will be terrible at it. Some people hate to blog nad will be terible at it.
But ultimately, Jeff, I agree: There CAN be a blend of new and old and that each “blend” will be different from person to person.
March 16, 2008 — 2:17 pm
Bawldguy Talking says:
Mariana — You’re on target, as the electronic business model is the 2008 car vs the 1908 version. It’s still a car, but most of us would rather drive this year’s model, right?
Your take on the agent’s personality is very well taken, as there are fits for this and fits for that, and one size definitely doesn’t fit all.
March 16, 2008 — 2:24 pm
Thomas Johnson says:
WWRD? What Would Russell Do?
I doubt that Russell Shaw would stop his 3/4 Million Dollar ad spend in order to make some hiway 2.0 para-dimes (are para-dimes the dimes we get after trading in our dollars for Ameros?).
March 16, 2008 — 3:37 pm
Bawldguy Talking says:
Thomas — Russell does in after tax dollars what most 2.0 folks do in 5+ years before tax.
Ouch on the para-dimes. 🙂
March 16, 2008 — 4:14 pm
Chris says:
I have done a very little bit of online lead generation, but frankly the quality is so low that I have almost lost interest. Actualy trying to capture and close them is like trying to nail jello to a wall.
The old school stuff, more so in this market seems to return the best results.
March 16, 2008 — 7:20 pm
Bawldguy Talking says:
Chris — online lead generation works. Combine the two and you’ll find a new way of working with far better results. What the online gurus don’t tell you is the absolutely watered down quality of online leads in general.
Though they are successful in generating them in impressive volume, their conversion rate, (read: closed escrows) are pathetically low. If they were hitters in baseball their batting average wouldn’t even be .100 — not even close.
Of course, there are no doubt some exceptions, though I’m so far unaware of them. Even so, they will tend to prove the rule.
Combine the two, and you income will rise.
March 16, 2008 — 8:36 pm
Late Night Austin Real Estate Blog says:
I think some of the paradigm shift stuff is a little overblown as well. The old school agents do better because a personal connection will always beat meeting someone over the internet. So a good referral from your brother beats a connection made on the web.
March 17, 2008 — 1:45 am
Cheryl Johnson says:
I do see one interesting shift taking place: Back in the 70s, 80s, 90s, most agents owned their own home, most agents had personal experience in buying and selling property, and could speak to clients from personal experience, on a peer-to-peer level.
The boom times of the early 00s brought in newcomers who had never once signed a real estate contract in their entire lives. I think that changes the agent-client relationship dynamic.
On the other hand, I suppose the guy working the parts counter at the Porsche dealership doesn’t need to own a Porsche to know which part you need.
March 17, 2008 — 5:37 am