As I mentioned on Real Estate Radio USA yesterday, Mary McKnight of RSSpieces.com will be joining us at BloodhoundBlog Unchained for a session called Real Estate Web Site Extreme Makeover. What we’re going to do is take a look at web sites and weblogs of audience volunteers and talk about how they might be improved — to be more attractive to visitors, stickier, better-optimized for search engines, etc. It should be a very robust, fast-paced overview of what does and doesn’t work in real estate web sites.
Here’s a news flash: The purpose of a real estate web site or weblog — the purpose of real estate marketing in general — is to sell houses. Pull-based marketing is still marketing.
With that much as preface, consider this: Russell Shaw is one of the biggest newspaper publishers in Northeast Phoenix. By way of Custom House Publishers, Russ prints and distributes almost 50,000 newspapers a month — distributed as the 85022 News, the 85024 News, the 85028 News and the 85032 News. These are the zip codes of Russell’s geographic farm, of course, and the newspapers are one way he has of “dripping” on sellers in his farm.
Russ also has four domains for those four zip codes, each one running a templated web site built and hosted by Superlative Web Systems, one of our local — and lame without exception — IDX vendors. These are the four sites: 85022News.com, 85024News.com, 85028News.com and 85032News.com. As with all templated web sites, if we examine everything with a critical eye and then work up every ounce of salesmanical enthusiasm we can muster, we can dig deep and bring forth a hearty: “Eh…” Not absolutely awful, but nothing that is insanely great.
Now it could be that Russ has that kind of frail and fragile ego that regards every bit of professional criticism as a grave and grievous insult — but not on this planet! Instead, Russell Shaw is the kind of phlegmatic, pragmatic, practical guy who understands that, no matter how well he might be doing today, he can always do even better tomorrow. My kinda guy. So instead of whimpering in the corner and licking his wounds, Russell said this to me in email:
I am VERY interested in what I can do to make those zip code sites something that the residents of the zip codes would actually use. What would you do if they were yours?
I live in a public world, so I said:
Can I talk about your zip code sites on BloodhoundBlog? It’s a good lesson for everyone, I think, and other people might have better ideas.
How game is Russell?
That is a GREAT idea.
So here we are, with a kind of preliminary, blog-based version of Real Estate Web Site Extreme Makeover.
Just to be abundantly clear, these sites are not complete failures now. They get traffic, and some of that traffic turns into leads. In strict cost/benefit terms, these are profitable web sites. The question is, can they be made to be more — or even exponentially more — profitable? Recalling that the purpose of a real estate web site or weblog is to sell houses, can these four little tin soldiers be turned into relentless stainless-steel lead-gathering machines?
This was my initial advice to Russell in email:
You might redo your zip code sites one at a time as blog-sites, then put one staffer per zip code in charge of posting hyper-local content to his/her weblog.
In the summer of 2006, Jim Cronin of The Real Estate Tomato and I, each of us working independently, came up with the idea of the real estate blog-site. Realtors would do all the sales jobs they were used to doing on their static web sites using WordPress’s Page feature, and the main page of the site would be that Realtor’s weblog. The blog is there to provide regularly-updated content for visitors — and to look like catnip to search engines — while the relatively static Pages are there to do the yeoman-like sales and marketing jobs. Even so, the whole thing looks and feels and works like a weblog — and everything is user-editable like a weblog.
The blog-site is the ideal solution for a Realtor’s web presence. Jim went to work selling blog-sites, while I went to work writing a free book about them. This could explain why I still drive a Hyundai station-wagon.
About a year later than I had originally planned to undertake the job, I converted our Phoenix real estate web site, our brokerage’s main web site, to a blog-site. I had built DistinctivePhoenix.com as a blog-site from the beginning, this in August of 2006. Considering how little effort we invest in local weblogging — neither of these sites is really finished — both have been remarkably productive at forging client relationships. My own style of writing is so blog-worthy to begin with — I’ve been writing on-line for 30 years — BloodhoundRealty.com has always made strong connections with smart, ethical people. But the synergy between the three sites, our two weblogs and BloodhoundBlog, is proving to be the surprise hit of 2008. We’re not working like we were in 2005, but we’re working with exactly the kind of people we want to attract — serious, prosperous — and honest as the day is long. This is the kind of target marketing even a half-assed blog-site can do.
So my take is that simply converting Russell’s zip code sites to blog-sites — weblog on the main page, marketing info, an IDX link and a kind of local community white pages on the inside Pages — would make them much more productive. By having one or more staffers assigned to each blog-site, Russ can assure regular maintenance of the sites, and he could offer two awards a month to the staff: Most New Content and Most New Leads. That kind of friendly in-house competition could make everyone stronger, and if the prizes were sufficiently generous, the staff members would get very serious about doing a better job. Everybody wins.
Just as a reminder: The purpose of a real estate web site or weblog is to sell houses.
Okayfine, but what more can we do? In Real Estate Weblogging 101, I go on at length about what we call the Insanely Great Idea: The best sort of community-based weblog is one that becomes the community. In other words, instead of broadcasting to the community, you recruit members of your hyper-local community to produce some, most or even all of your weblog’s content. DistinctivePhoenix.com, among other things, is a failed first implementation of this idea. We never put in the time to recruit community contributors, so the idea never took flight. BloodhoundBlog is an outrageously successful second attempt at the same idea, a blog-site built to host a community of divergent viewpoints — contributors, readers (whether they comment or not) and other weblogs.
Jeff Brown came up with an even more thoroughgoing variation on that same theme, turning a hyper-local weblog into a virtual geographic farm, and using the connections made through the weblog to serve as a sort of virtual door-knocking.
Ideas are easy, and one of the things I admire about both Russell Shaw and Jeff Brown is that they are both so solid on follow-through. But before you can follow through, you need a plan of action.
So let me put Russell’s question to you:
I am VERY interested in what I can do to make those zip code sites something that the residents of the zip codes would actually use. What would you do if they were yours?
We know Russ can get those sites set up as blog-sites. We know he has staffers to throw at the problem of keeping them updated with new content. We know that, with some effort, he can probably recruit local residents to contribute content or to do other site-maintenance chores.
What else can he do to make those four domains big-time money-makers?
But wait: Russell Shaw makes seven-figures after taxes every year. Why should we help him with his marketing problems?
I have three good answers to that question:
- Because he has so freely helped us with so many of our marketing problems.
- Because working on problems like this will improve your own marketing — and your mind along with it.
- Because Russell might be so grateful that he’ll buy you a frosty beverage, should you come to Phoenix for Unchained.
In short, how can you lose?
So take the Real Estate Web Site Extreme Makeover challenge: What would you do with Russell Shaw’s four zip code domains if they were yours?
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Sean Purcell says:
Greg,
Great idea. I am trying to get a crash course on hyper-local blogs (farms) and this should be eye opening. Please keep the ideas coming.
March 8, 2008 — 10:26 pm
Ron Ares says:
At first glance, I would correct “courtesty of The Russell Shaw Group” in at least two of the site headers. Also, the sites fall apart in Mac/Firefox.
Framing other sites’ content always leads to brand chaos, so have a staffer compile the same info and repurpose it with your stylesheet. Review it a couple times a year for accuracy.
Add photo tours or videos of landmarks, sights, and sounds of the area. A video of Russell extolling the virtues of living in that zipcode. A Google map of the zipcode boundaries and important locations (post office, grocery, police, etc).
Interview a few interesting neighbors or shop owners. Highlight a listing of the week (whether yours or not).
March 8, 2008 — 11:14 pm
John Wake says:
Ron gives some good advice. I especially like the idea of videos of Russell extolling the virtues of the zip code. Nice evergreen videos.
Overall, however, the current website is so far from being good that I don’t think the website is worth investing time in. Russell’s time would be better invested in finding a new, better vendor.
March 9, 2008 — 1:00 am
Ann Cummings says:
Greg – I like this idea, and Ron has some interesting suggestions in his comment. One thing I would suggest to start with is to add some color to 85022. And I think it would look great to make the pictures on the opening page rotate with a refresh or page click. In the “Welcome” note on each site, I’d throw in some really local tidbits there that would make someone want to delve deeper into the site.
The google maps with the specific area being talked/written about highlighted really do look great. I’ve been toying with those myself for my areas. Haven’t gotten mine do yet, but they’ll be up soon.
March 9, 2008 — 3:21 am
Tara Jacobsen says:
“Please take a few moments to explore all the features of the website.” If you have to say this you aren’t doing a good job…:) No really, even if I lived in that area and was interested, there is nothing there to compel me to click. Where is the page where they can post their garage sales and bridge nights? Where are the photo galleries that show Russel mingling with the residents and petting doggies at a neighborhood block party? There is very little that is actually local about that site and that is my HUGE beef about templated sites. They are easy but not all that useful!
A couple more things that he could do (easily) – and if they are on the site already don’t yell at me, I didn’t have the patience to “explore all the features of the website”.
1. Post Russel’s list of referral partners (handymen, bug guys, etc.) Offer to post local businesses also.
2. Have a cute kid of the month contest that they can submit pictures to and publish the winner in the Custom House newsletter.
3. Allow civic organizations to post volunteer opportunties like “Paint Your Hear Out” or Habitat For Humanity. Get pictures and post them on your site.
4. Ask newsletter readers what they want on the site and give a prize for the top 5 suggestions.
I could do this all day but I am sure Russel will get the idea. LOCAL LOCAL LOCAL, PICTURES PICTURES PICTURES!
March 9, 2008 — 6:00 am
Carl Minicucci says:
There are several obvious things that are lacking. I’ve spent all of 1 minute reviewing and it’s often that 1st minute that is a good litmus test for a review.
1) Other than the colour differentiation, each of the four sites appear homogeneous. While that has obvious benefits, I would argue that the landing page should do more to differentiate itself from the others. For example, a short brief on what makes 85032 distinct. I would also echo the use of a map and would go one step further to include an overall map which then highlights the zip code for the page in question so the visitor knows where it is relative to other zips.
2) Zip codes mean absolutely nothing to me as someone who lives outside the community. That may well be in keeping with a hyperlocal emphasis, but it does absolutely nothing for the relocation business, as an offshoot.
3) I’m surprised there is no intra-site linking. That one screams.
4) There is very little in the way of calls to action. Again, it may be the goal here to be a transparent neighbourhood resource, but based on what this Canadian has gathered about Russell, I suspect he does not go out of his way to curb an opportunity for lead generation. For starters, the usual CTA suspects would be apply: Automated home search, Complimentary Home Evals and General Neighbourhood questions. Big bold buttons is my usual preference.
5) Re-jig the html code on the “RUSSELSHAWRealtor.com #1 Realtor” logo. It should be a hyperlink to his main site.
6) Fire the orignal designers of these sites for the above oversites.
March 9, 2008 — 7:34 am
Greg Swann says:
Some really interesting ideas here, but I think we might need to stretch a little farther. We don’t need to fix what’s already there — we know it’s broken.
What happens when you “blank the screen” in your mind? What do you see filling that space and doing a better marketing job?
March 9, 2008 — 7:57 am
Carl Minicucci says:
>What happens when you “blank the screen” in your mind? What do you see filling that space and doing a better marketing job?
I see dogs without chains…….. no masters too,
Bright blessed brains….. dark sacred truths,
And I think to myself…. what a wonderful world.
March 9, 2008 — 8:48 am
Tara Jacobsen says:
What I suggest then a do NOT see is do-over of these sites, I would put it on a blog platform with benefits and let the homeowners have at it! Add all the features we talked about and have a post for each event where you can add the photos and attendee info and let them talk about how fun it was! Put the neighborhood issues up there (I have a farm with oil tanks that have to be removed prior to sale) with comments from selected vendors who can give tips on how to handle them. Tell people in a vacation rental market how to get their homes rented seasonally with links to where to post their properties and be the go to person for property managing them! There are a million things Russell can do – what does he want to accomplish with these sites?
March 9, 2008 — 8:54 am
Greg Swann says:
> I see dogs without chains…….. no masters too,
> Bright blessed brains….. dark sacred truths,
> And I think to myself…. what a wonderful world.
Beautiful…
March 9, 2008 — 8:55 am
Tara Jacobsen says:
In 20 minutes on my least favorite blog platform. http://dunedinisles.blogspot.com/ Can you imagine what a guy like Russell could do with his sites?
March 9, 2008 — 9:34 am
DB says:
I am in line with Ron’s idea. I believe in order to build a community, you have to cater to the community. People do not read real estate blogs. They may read it when they are close to either buying or selling, but they do not stay on to read much longer than that.
I believe you have to find a balance between community and real estate.
I would take the four domains and redirect them to one great big site. Then since Russell has a full staff, assign one staff member to each of the area codes and ask that they post at least one article a week – perhaps one zip code on Monday, another on Tuesday and so forth. Then Russell can do a national real estate post on Friday and take Saturday and Sunday off.
Zip coded post would be about happening in the community, interviews with everyday people – people on the streets, local businesses, politicians like the mayor, school board members, etc. Maybe even some local history. Then when a new listing comes in, a post about the listing – not an advertisement but a story of the listing maybe.
There you have a ton of community news, listings and Russell’s Friday real estate commentary.
The way I see it, you capture an entire community and keep them reading and then when they think of buying or selling, they will already be familiar with Russell’s site and staff that the Shaw group would be the first they think of.
One of the things I liked about Teri’s blog was she blogged her community. I hate to say it, but blogging real estate is boring reading.
March 9, 2008 — 10:08 am
Carl Minicucci says:
>What happens when you “blank the screen” in your mind? What do you see filling that space and doing a better marketing job?
Despite my initial response, I do believe Greg’s question is an important one and I think he’s spot on in suggesting it requires a blanking of the existing slate.
Quite frankly, when I “blank the screen”, I see nothing of immediate interest.{Enter witty remark here}
However, once I turn the screen back on, I see the genesis of the answer: BloodhoundBlog
And so, in true consultant-like fashion, I begin to answer your question by asking yet another:
What is it about the BloodhoundBlog that keeps you subscribing and coming back? If you can answer that question based on first principles and then apply those same principles to a hyperlocal website-blog-hybrid-mashedpotato (if it pleases you), I submit to you that you will be on your way.
March 9, 2008 — 10:59 am
Paula Henry says:
I’m going to bite here, since, in my previous life, I lived in 85028, still have a home there and still receive Russell’s 85028 Newsletter. Yep, it’s delivered there every month, waiting for me when I make a trip to Arizona.
Maybe only Realtors examine the newsletter and website like I did when I received my first copy. At the time, I checked out the site. It appeared to be “just another Realtor site”.
There are already some great recommendations here – scrap the site, switch the domains to a blog platform, put local content on each site. these zip codes are close enough to each other, you could get tons of local pictures for each separate site in one day.
I do read the newsletter when I make it to Phoenix – I want to know what homes are selling for in my area. One thing I would consider is only giving them a “bite” of the information they seek in the newsletter(recent sales) then direct them to the site for additional information. They will know where to go when they want to know what homes are selling for in their area. Once they are there, offer a CMA for their home and lots of great info about their area. Try it with just one zip code and see if it affects the traffic to your site (once you have changed the site)
March 9, 2008 — 12:06 pm
Sean Giorgianni says:
Edward R. Murrow said of Winston Churchill, “He mobilized the English language and sent it into battle.”
Blogging about zip codes makes about as much sense as dividing Berlin into 4 zones after World War II.
It’s as messy as a County Fair pie eating contest, but the only way to avoid the Realtor stigmata is to offer advice at the neighborhood level.
March 9, 2008 — 10:18 pm
Thomas Johnson says:
I will leave the website improvement to those who are not just far more competent, than I, but those who actually know what they are doing.
I suggest, guess what? ZESTIFARMING! One searches Zillow by zipcode. Russell should dispatch staff zestifarmers each assigned to a zipcode blog and photograph every house in the zipcode. Each zipcode should have its own separate profile on Zillow, so the the photograph of the house is courtesy of Russell Shaw at 99999News.com. By having the zipcode site wired to the houses in the zipcode, search ranking should be improved.
Once the collective genius of the kennel gets finished with “blogifying” the sites, and Russell should be the big dog in his selected turf
March 10, 2008 — 8:47 am
Jay Thompson says:
All these great ideas aside, there is a fundamental problem with the provider. In my opinion, Superlative sucks. I used them three years ago, and told them many of their templates look like crap when viewed in Firefox. Their response? “We’re working on that”.
Three years later these templates still look like crap on Firefox.
Horrific customer support and fundamentally flawed in basic SEO options, they are a poor choice for a templated web site.
March 10, 2008 — 9:18 am
Ryan Hartman says:
Here’s our take on the local site idea:
We’re working on creating a few local blogs for Philly neighborhoods. The idea is to assign each neighborhood to an agent with basic simple requirements for the agent’s contribution.
Example: CousinFishtown.com (http://philadelphiarealestatehub.com/cousinfishtown).
It’s a wordpress site in a separate directory on the same domain as our main site http://philadlephiarealestatehub.com so we’re hoping it’ll eventually benefit from some of the great traffic we’re getting on the main site…
CousinFishtown provides very basic info about the local Real Estate Market for now– Recent Sales Transactions (the only contribution required by the assigned agent) and direct links to IDX search results for different segments of the local marketplace. (Townhomes, Condos, Investments, etc.)
The sites main focus is to get visitors to leave! Most links on the site go to the front of the agent’s back-end lead management account.
CousinFishtown.com is very young, but we’re hoping the idea will work as a nice magnet for buyer registrations and eventually listing leads. We’re also anticipating the concept could benefit recruiting/retention efforts…
So, in addition to making sure the sites reliably convert visitors to registrations, maybe Russell could assign other company agents as site contributors(in return for referral fees of some form,) pack the sites with useful data + pics/videos galore, then start promoting the venture via postcards, pay-per-click, and a few phone calls to some past clients in the target zips to get some buzz going?
March 10, 2008 — 1:05 pm