I have been talking about the economics of abundance literally from Day One of BloodhoundBlog:
In a subsistence culture, the work of the mind is precious and literally unsupportable. We are by now so rich that millions of people can create intellectual resources that they give away, in turn to be remarketed by others.
I was talking about phenomena like weblogging and open-source software, but, ironically enough, I was also talking about an article by Wired magazine editor Chris Anderson.
This week Anderson is back with another important article, this one called Free! Why $0.00 Is the Future of Business. He’s writing about the net.economy, and what he has to say is fascinating, even if I think he might be missing the bigger picture. He’s also writing in support of his new book, a for-pay product I don’t intend to pay for.
Anderson likens the idea of free razors, which we’ve also talked about, with the modern net model of using free web-based software to create massively-viral effects. Interestingly, he documents six broad categories of no-cost-to-the-user internet business models.
His thesis is that the plummeting cost of data-processing hardware, coupled with a software-cost-per-user that approaches zero, requires vendors of web-based information and services to find other ways to monetize their efforts. If one vendor won’t cut the price to zero, the next one will.
We’ve been talking about this much, too, also since the birth of BloodhoundBlog:
[T]he people most immediately affected are the ones who are currently paid a salary or wages based on the sale of information. Either the information is going to get much, much better — or the number of paychecks is going to get much, much smaller.
Stewart Brand said “information wants to be free”. This has intellectual property implications far beyond ordinary information. But with respect to that ordinary information — news, opinion, fiction, poetry, almost all music, etc. — the war is over. Hoarding lost. The challenge amidst this vast abundance is not getting people to pay for your information — but simply getting them to pay attention to it.
The daily newspaper has no hope whatever of nicking me for fifty cents. The question that will decide if there is even to be a newspaper is, can they hold onto my eyes for as long as fifty seconds? And will someone pay for those eyes in the random hope of piercing my vast indifference to advertising?
It comes down to career advice, I think, for the newspaperati and for all of us: How much future is there in a job that millions of very smart people are willing to do for free? Maybe not the same work, but so close that any differences become academic. And: If you’re committed to sharing information even in a marketplace where ordinary information is so abundant as to be without monetary value, what are you going to do to make a living?
That much is very interesting, and Anderson is always a good read.
But wait. There’s more.
The economics of abundance is more than a reflection of very low data-processing costs. It’s plausible to me that that echoes of the data-processing revolution are being heard everywhere, in every sector of the economy. Those functions that are most like their Nineteenth or Twentieth Century equivalents might exhibit the smallest kind of identifiable change. But those economic activities that are themselves wholly or largely data-processing functions are also becoming remarkably faster, significantly more efficient and substantially cheaper with each passing year. In other words, the cost of offering up a Facebook-like platform or a new MP3 is not only, essentially, zero cents per instantiation, the cost of many, many market values is approaching zero.
Still more: The naked essence of the scarcity economy — everything you were taught of economics, very probably — is based on chokepoints — limitations upon available supply occurring either in nature, by fiat of law or as an artifact of clever marketing. When we talk about “the middle man and the middle man’s profits,” what we’re talking about is some vendor who has interposed himself at a chokepoint between supply and demand.
Does that make sense? Tempe, Arizona, used to be called Hayden’s Ferry. Charles Hayden ran a ferry across the Salt River, which in those days had water in it. (The river has since been dammed upstream.) In any case, if you wanted to cross the river, you had to buy a ticket on Hayden’s ferry. He controlled the chokepoint.
A toll road is the same sort of thing, except the erection of toll booths is not a natural phenomenon.
The De Beers diamond cartel has managed to convince lovebirds that diamonds are rare — when in fact they are abundant — thus charging a premium price for showy baubles.
An example closer to home: In the Web 1.0 world, lead vendors snapped up domains and fought hard for dominance on organic and pay-per-click keywords relating to real estate sales, mortgage origination and refinancing. By these means, they harvested contact information from interested parties, which they were then able to sell to Realtors and lenders, often for enormous fees. The lead vendors created an artificial chokepoint by marketing, then charged practitioners a premium to gain access to the consumers trapped at that chokepoint.
Scarcity has been a given, until now, in human economic life, but scarcity has also been an important tool of political and social domination. Consider that the medieval castle was much more than the baron’s residence. It was a redoubt for the serfs, of course, and the armory for both the serfs and the putative nobility. But the most important function of medieval fortresses, from the time of the Roman latifundia on, was to serve as the granary for the community. The baron would defend the community’s harvest from theft by invaders with armed guards stationed behind stout stone walls. But the baron also, in consequence, had the means to bring any rebellion, large or small, to its knees. He controlled the food supply.
Now stop for a moment and think about Web 2.0.
Horizontal search tends to erode all man-made chokepoints. So do weblogs and every other form of social media. The serfs were stuck with the baron because they had no means of moving away. If you have only one way across the river, you’re going to have to take the ferry. But nothing prevents you from discovering that diamonds are insanely overpriced — nor is there anything that prevents you from shouting this fact to the world, as I am doing right now.
And there is no barrier to forbid consumers from skipping around the chokepoint — and the middle man’s profits — to engage directly with Realtors and lenders. The transition from the economics of scarcity to the economics of abundance will not be instantaneous, but the obvious long-run trend is toward greater transparency, increased symmetry of information — and no marketing-engendered chokepoints.
Nothing happens as quickly as we expect it to, looking forward, and everything seems to have happened much faster than we had realized, looking backward. More important, I think, than the plummeting cost of data processing, is the massive and seemingly irreversible horizontalization — the democratization — of information. The most significant man-made chokepoints centered around restrictions upon access to information and concentrations of expertise. When we use the word “disintermediation,” what we really mean is not getting rid of the middleman, but, rather, the dismantling of arbitrary economic chokepoints. As those barriers erode away, one by one, the consumer cost of everything associated with them drops dramatically. The semantic web, Web 3.0 — wherein the information that you want finds you — should only hasten this process.
It’s plausible to me that the economics of abundance will have an impact on the fees we charge, as well. If that looks like a cloud to you, here is a silver lining: It’s not how much you make, it’s how much you take home. If your own costs are plummeting, then you can make more while charging less.
In any case, in the long run — which is not very long — everything that can be ‘sold’ at no cost will be. And everything else will tend to be marketed with fewer and fewer chokepoints. And yet we are rich beyond the wildest dreams of the richest of the medieval barons.
There are still wannabe barons in our economy, people scheming to find a way to hold us hostage with our own grain. But the last laugh will be ours: They will defend to the death the stout gates they have built across economic chokepoints. And we will go wherever we choose — in a world without walls.
Further notice: Scrabulous in the New York Times.
Last summer’s persecution of Zillow.com was a counter-reaction against no-cost services.
The real estate vendors are all atwitter that Inman News has shed its skin to become… a dinosaur…
Louis Cammarosano says:
Excellent thought provoking post.
Is Google a choke point?
Are listing aggregators like Zillow and Trulia? Can they become one?
HomeGain?
Can a middleman transform to become another valued touchpoint instead of an arbitrary chokehold?
Will the Unchained Conference be free one day?
Does having a long standing belief make it a better one than a belief recently hatched?
March 2, 2008 — 3:05 am
Louis Cammarosano says:
One more
Are Realtors themselves not a chokehold –
intermediating themselves between a willing buyer and willing seller?
In a world without walls do buyers and seller just deal directly with each other?
or perhaps through a company,EBay style?
March 2, 2008 — 3:18 am
Cheryl Johnson says:
Wired Mag first introduced me to the idea of the new economy in 1997, their original article is gone from the archive, but this 1998 copy will have to do: http://www.alamut.com/subj/economics/misc/newRules.html
However. I see a strange divide. On one side of the divide “free is the fee” of the new economy. On the other side Active Rain secures a minority investment of 2.75 mil. Jason Calacanis sells Weblogs, Inc. to AOL for 25 mil. Truila secures 18 mil in Venture Captial. The list goes on.
I sure wish I knew how to make the leap from the “free” side of the divide to the “funded” side.
March 2, 2008 — 5:28 am
REBlogGirl says:
Right on! Giving to get is the new business model. I remember back in the 90s when I was in VC, everyone wondered what Google’s business model was. I mean everyone was using it but AdSense/AdWords had yet to rear its revenue generating head. And now, big G is king of online revenue, supporting an entire economy of its own. I believe that is the benchmark of online business plans, do not overvalue your service, offer scalable products that can be priced for any budget/subscription based revenue streams and ALWAYS give something of value away for free to build trust with the consumer.
March 2, 2008 — 6:54 am
Greg Cremia says:
I have been laughed at by my peers for giving away all of my knowledge for free. What they didn’t and don’t understand is the loyalty developed in the process. In real estate, client loyalty means money.
On another note, NAR is attempting to turn back the hands of time and is trying to create a choke point by denying realtors the use of the term “MLS”. I could understand the effort if it were to help its constituency but the effort will only help the lead generators take back what was once theirs.
Time moves on, at least for some of us.
March 2, 2008 — 7:56 am
Dave Shafer says:
Great Post! A few questions:
Will people be willing to pay for knowledge accumulators? Those folks who have acquired expertise in a knowledge area (like realtors). Or will they simply search on their own until they feel comfortable with their knowledge?
How are you going to find the time to search on your own, skipping the middle man/woman, for everything?
Already people have a hard time discerning between the incompetent, the hucksters, the barely competents, and the people that truly provide good service, knowledge, and solid advice in a transparent way. Think of all those people who overpaid for an home/investment property (flippers) or are in expensive mortgages that make little sense for their financial situation.
I am changing my business model from the traditional networking/marketing for clients to one that more closely resembles private education. Will people pay for this? or will they continue to approach personal finance from the herd mentality looking to cable networks, mass media magazines, financial products salespeople (who traditionally have no finance education), as a source of “free education?”
Finally, with so much information out there already, do we reach a saturation level where there is no more room left that our brains can handle? Much research points out to this saturation level for the human brain and its limits. Can we really become self taught experts in everything?
March 2, 2008 — 8:45 am
Louis Cammarosano says:
Greg and Mary are giving away information and by doing so are establishing themselves as experts on how to navigate the new open systems. This leads to economic opportunities that they can capitalize on in other areas (selling real estate, BHC, blogs and seo services) where they can charge for their services……..
Until someone gives away what they charge for gratis.
It seems you charge for what you can while you can.
March 2, 2008 — 9:01 am
Louis Cammarosano says:
Greg and Brian
Would you use any of the “chokeholds” to promote your businesses or conferences or are you relying soley on the economics of abundance to drive visitors to your blogs, customers to your doors and butts in the seats at your conference? I see that Dustin is buying Google ad words
to promote the exisitence of his seminars.
http://blog.homegain.com/whatever-it-takes#comments
March 2, 2008 — 9:27 am
Greg Swann says:
> Will people be willing to pay for knowledge accumulators? Those folks who have acquired expertise in a knowledge area (like realtors). Or will they simply search on their own until they feel comfortable with their knowledge?
It depends.
I’ve known Richard Riccelli for 17 years. I met him when he was a client of my employer, and then I worked for him directly as a sub-contractor for many years thereafter. Richard is a Jesuit education all unto his own, and, one day, when he was particularly unhappy with work I had done, he bestowed upon me the most valuable words I have ever heard: “Where’s my added value?”
If your presence in a transaction is an expression of your ability to block your client’s access to goods or information or to other people — if you are a chokepoint — I think you have a tough way to go.
On the other hand, if your contribution flows from knowledge and expertise that your client could have acquired, but has not, or from your experience-based ability to do things they might also be able to do, but which you can effect better, more quickly, at a lower cost or while they are doing something else — that’s added value.
Correct me if you think I’m wrong, but I think the only reason to use a middleman in a transaction is to take advantage of the added value that middleman brings to the table. I’m not talking about you as a Realtor, I’m talking about you as a consumer. Why think about things that way? Because it seems to me absurd to expect smart consumers to do what you would not do, if you were in their place. If you want to know how consumers behave, start by watching yourself in the marketplace.
(Incidentally, the cooperating broker’s commission in MLS listings (the co-broke) creates and resolves a chokepoint: I will give the listing broker access to my buyer client if and only if my terms are met. I am deliberately interposing myself between the parties to a transaction and demanding a promise of compensation before I will get out of the way. It doesn’t sound so pretty, all spelled out like that, does it?)
> How are you going to find the time to search on your own, skipping the middle man/woman, for everything?
FWIW, this is what the Semantic Web will be doing for all of us. It behooves us to prepare for that day. You can see it in prototype in the form of GoogleBots or Trulia RSS feeds or the automated listings emails you might be sending out from your own MLS. The long-run direction of search is not on-demand but set-it-and-forget-it.
> Can we really become self taught experts in everything?
That’s not the question. The question confronting Realtors and lenders is, “How ya’ gonna keep ’em down on the farm after they’ve seen Paree?” Perhaps without knowing it, we have been a chokepoint to our clients, first by controlling essential information like MLS listings or mortgage rates, and second by our placid “father knows best” attitude. This won’t fly any longer. Consumers believe that they can self-manage much of the real estate transaction, and they’re going to listen to you most intently at those moments when they know they don’t know what they’re doing. That is your added value — navigator, riding shotgun, not the driver.
(That’s a sweet metaphor. Watch for it in a headline soon. 😉 )
March 2, 2008 — 9:33 am
Daniel Rothamel says:
The metaphor I prefer, for obvious reasons, is that of the sports official. Sports officials are not choke points, but instead, bring an added value to the sporting contest. The rules are out there for all of the participants to know, there is no hiding. It just so happens that the officials are experts not only at KNOWING the rules, but also at APPLYING the rules. The knowledge is absolutely free to anyone willing to open up the rule book, the application is the added value that sports officials bring to the table. Games can be played completely void of referees of any kind, but they can be ugly. When athletes want a “real” game, they utilize the officials.
Sports officials could have very easily positioned themselves as choke points, controlling the rules and the dissemination of rules knowledge and interpretation. Instead, sports officials realize that it is in the best interests of everyone involved in the contest that the information be not only available, but also basically understood. Otherwise, the application of the rules by sports officials would seem arbitrary and would be misunderstood.
The same applies to REALTORS (or just about any other service provider, consultant, etc.). You want the potential benefactor of your added value to have some sort of knowledge of what the heck is going on, otherwise, they will resist your input. Being a choke point merely puts you in a position for people to find a way to get around you.
To drop another metaphor– the strongest, most effective dams must allow water to flow through them. If not, the water will find a way around, eventually destroying the damn.
We should be seeking a way not to choke off anything, but rather to allow it to flow freely through us.
March 2, 2008 — 11:24 am
Daniel Rothamel says:
Oops, I meant “beneficiary” not “benefactor” in that last comment.
I shall spend the required amount of time in “vocabulary time out” later.
March 2, 2008 — 11:26 am
Louis Cammarosano says:
Daniel
I agree. We should only view “middlemen” as choke points if they are not value add conduits.
This applies to just about every profession.
One could view teachers as choke points between the text and the student, realtors as choke points between buyers and sellers, car dealers as choke points between the car manufacturer and the car buyer…
March 2, 2008 — 12:36 pm
Brian Brady says:
I’d like to expand on Dave Shafer’s comment and reference a short post I did on HomeGain:
http://blog.homegain.com/why-use-social-networks-to-network
Acquired knowledge and a strong network will empower the practitioners of tomorrow. So, we must market our strengths.
I believe that consumers will have ready access to more an more information and THAT will be a problem for them. Guides, or as Tony Gallegos calls us “Cicerones”, will be the professionals to whom consumers turn. We’re going to have to display our value better, in the future.
The power of your network will be the attraction to the consumer.
March 2, 2008 — 12:38 pm
Dave Shafer says:
Brian, I tend to agree with you and see this happening already in the mortgage biz, with folks being able to get much information, but still not get what they are really looking for, which in my mind is fair treatment and pricing.
I wonder if we won’t see a change in the way folks in the RE/Finance industry get compensated as a result of this.
Perhaps instead of working for free until a deal is consumated and having to charge based on that fact, a new way of thinking will emerge? Perhaps hiring a “guide” who will educate you along with help you do the things you can’t or don’t want to do is a viable model in the new world? I have several neighbors who simply do not see the value of anyone (good or bad realtor) making $30,000-$40,000 or more to sell their homes. You can’t convince them otherwise, and I have tried. But I often wonder, maybe they are right. They can get MLS listed, they can put up their pictures on the internet and they can market it themselves, so why shouldn’t they? They could hire an appraiser for $325 to give them an accurate assessment on the value of their home.
The guy two doors down just sold his house after a year on the market. His realtor did about 4 open houses in that time. The person who is buying it was renting a house down the street. The realtor was rarely seen around after the first 30 days. He had nothing to do with the ultimate buyer. My FSBO neighbors see this and it only makes them more convinced of their opinion.
March 2, 2008 — 2:57 pm
Brian Brady says:
Forget how we promote Unchained, Louis, your question should be, Brian, will you use PPC to market your mortgage practice? I”ll refer you to my podast interview with Real Estate Radio USA for the answer.
March 2, 2008 — 3:36 pm
Brian Brady says:
Dave, the guide model in mortgage brokerage is and has been offered, by me, for 10 years.
Borrowers reject the idea of paying an upfront fee to get wholesale pricing, almot 100%. Borrowers still play the rate/fees game and get sheared. It’s quite frustrating.
I think we’ll change some views after this liquidity crisis is over. Borrowers are more worried about performance than pricing, today
March 2, 2008 — 3:39 pm
Louis Cammarosano says:
Hi Brian
Forgotten!
Brian, will you use PPC to market your mortgage practice?
Please refer me to you podcast.
Who says that you are not a spell binding blogger?!
March 2, 2008 — 3:41 pm
Brian Brady says:
Brian, will you use PPC to market your mortgage practice?
Listen to the podcast; it’s about 30 minutes long- in short, I’ll use anything that is effective to market my mortgage practice
Please refer me to you podcast.
https://www.bloodhoundrealty.com/BloodhoundBlog/BrianBradyRealEstateRadioUSA.mp3
March 2, 2008 — 4:35 pm
David Shafer says:
Brian, You are a man ahead of your time. In the last year I had tried to move in that direction, but find much resistance. At least some people appreciate transparency, but they are generally the more sophisticated folks (small business owner, CPA, lawyers, etc.) that seem to make up much of my clientele. For the average folk, they don’t want to talk anything but rates. And yes they end up getting raked over the coals, sometimes my me if they have made my life difficult! I had a customer who I tried to sell on the 1.5 point close at par. He insisted on shopping me and shopping me till he found someone that would lie to him two weeks before he was suppose to close. Gotta a call from him two days before he was suppose to close asking for help because the other lender had changed the terms of the deal and also couldn’t get the deal through in time. He paid 2 points + additional fee because he was such a jerk to me. Still it was better than the deal he had from the liar. He has turned into my biggest fan and I have told him he had a better deal with me initially. I felt bad about it for some time, but he really was a PIA to deal with.
March 2, 2008 — 5:50 pm
Sean Purcell says:
What is PPC?
March 2, 2008 — 6:06 pm
Louis Cammarosano says:
Pay per click.
Something you can do by bidding on key words on Google or Yahoo or by contracting with HomeGain to send you a set number of visitors a month to your web site.
March 2, 2008 — 6:11 pm
Sean Purcell says:
Ah… thank you Louis. PPC would appear to be a buggy whip in the not too distant future. “I’ll use anything that is effective to market my mortgage practice” is an accurate statment but not an endorsement. In a world increasingly dominated by pull marketing (at least until web 3.0 – as described by Greg Swann – becomes more readily available) PPC should not be effective too much longer.
In my opinion, disintermediation and chokeholds are very large hammers pounding on a very nuanced adaptation by consumers. We, as a species, have an interesting psychology that will dictate what exactly is disintermediated and what services are value-added enough to charge a fee.
Years ago, in the only legitimate job I have ever had, I managed a department at a large, mid-western Home Depot. At one point the powers that be decided that having only two basic styles of doors was bad for business and they brought in a half dozen choices from a couple of vendors. All of the employees in my department were dutifully trained in the pros and cons of each door to better assist the customer. Guess what happened to sales once these choices were made available? They dropped significantly. Faced with too many choices people chose to buy nothing. Came in for a door and left without one because it was too difficult to decide. Amazing…
My point is this: people make decisions (or don’t make them) based on their perception of the expertise required. Too much expertise required and they will pay for help OR walk away. Not always easy to know which. Add to which, you may think you are providing expertise (e.g. trained associates) only to discover that your expertise is not perceived as such. Your message is off target.
To use Hayden’s Ferry as an example: that may be a choke point but it is one of convenience. People will come to that crossing and, based on their perception of the level of expertise required to build their own ferry, they will make a decision to pay, walk away or disintermediate Hayden and build their own. The power of the internet is in providing the potential for the perception and the reality to be much closer by providing realistic plans, costs and information from other ferry builders. That does not necessarily mean, however, that people will indeed build their own. They might in fact become willing to pay even more based on their more accurate understanding of all the work involved.
So the question to ask as a businessman (and a marketer of that business) is whether or not the product I provide (and therefore the expertise required to provide it) is going to cause the consumer to pay a fee, walk away or do it themselves. If, for example, an agents’ Listing Presentation USP is to hold an open house, the consumer may very will perceive that level of expertise to be easy enough to acquire that no fee is justified. If, on the other hand, an agent is “selling” their extensive knowledge of a very specific neighborhood, or marketing ideas based on multiple years of experience, or a level of internet expertise derived from countless nights experimenting (combined, possibly, with the occasional Unchained seminar) it is quite likely that the consumer will perceive a level of expertise that has value. They will pay to use the ferry if it is easier than building one (or even making choices).
March 2, 2008 — 7:09 pm
Louis Cammarosano says:
I agree to a certain extent. Does not your analysis bode very poorly for Google then in the future?
Or for Zillow’s easy ads?
Dustin Luther however still thinks Google is a worthwhile spend of his dollars to promote his seminars
http://blog.homegain.com/whatever-it-takes
March 2, 2008 — 8:50 pm
Sean Purcell says:
From what I read, Google IS still a worthwhile spend of his dollars. The bottom line never changes: watch the bottom line. 🙂
I agree with you, Dustin Luther and Brian: do whatever it takes to bring in the business. So long as buggy whips get you where you are going and PPC brings in clients why wouldn’t any prudent businessman use them. My point was intended to be a little more esoteric. Philosophically speaking, it is hard to say what method of attracting clients will work best because it is the clients’ perception of the level of expertise involved that dictates what products they buy vs. what products they decide to make themselves or go without altogether.
To wit: Dustin Luther is selling a product. Whether or not anyone buys that product depends in large part on whether they see a level of expertise that they themselves cannot get easily, or for less money, or do without. His method of attracting these buyers reflects on his level of expertise. I.e. If he were using carrier pigeon to sell his high tech communications company or dropping off donuts to gain awareness of his 2.0 marketing genius, would anyone perceive a level of expertise that they themselves cannot replicate?
I don’t consider myself a purist. I am only suggesting that marketing plans which are so nakedly push driven as PPC will most probably find themselves dining with the dinosaurs as consumers appreciate their increasing levels of expertise.
I have posted previously on the concept of Mayoral Marketing and it holds true here… especially here. Disintermediation happens to those that charge for a service (level of expertise) others perceive to be easily attainable (whether it is, in fact, easily attainable is large irrelevant). As marketers (and that is the sum of what we are talking about) we must present ourselves as the sum of information that is germane to our customers (constituents) but also be perceived as having a level of expertise (to operate as mayor) that our customers would rather pay for (continue to elect us) rather than own themselves (run themselves).
Most people believe that they have the intelligence and ability to buy and sell their own home just as most people believe they have what it takes to be a good mayor. Your marketing quest as an agent (aka your campaign effort to be mayor) is to present those same people a level of expertise that they would rather pay for than garner themselves.
March 2, 2008 — 10:10 pm
Dave Shafer says:
Thanks Sean,
I am now beginning to see the light. It is largely irrelevant whether my experience/expertise allows for folks to actually align there loan in a more productive way, it is their perception of this that is important. If they only perceive rate as the important demoninator then the other stuff is really irrelevant. If they get raked over the coals, they won’t know it because they don’t perceive anything other than rate as important and they really can’t even know if they got a good rate. Therefore by the time they need another mortgage they will just repeat their prior performance unless they have a truly bad experience.
That of course forces me to have a split personality, dealing with rate shoppers one way, and more sophisticated customers another way.
And to bring this conversation back, putting information on my blog about how to properly structure a loan and how a loan is priced only allows for the possibility that customers will look beyond rate, but in all likelihood fall on deaf ears because of all the noise out there about rate.
March 3, 2008 — 8:17 am
Louis Cammarosano says:
Sean
Thanks for your response. I agree that if Dustin is marketing a seminar based on his online prowess he should show how good he is at it during his seminar.
http://blog.homegain.com/whatever-it-takes
Would like your views on Google. While it may not make sense to PAY Google for your visits if you want to be independent,however, most online marketing today still requires Google. As Mary McKnight points out successful blogging involves writing to attract google
http://blog.homegain.com/using-blog-successful-realtor
Isn’t google becoming the biggest chokehold? Indeed isn’t any company whether it be HomeGain, Zillow, Google Yahoo that interposes itself between the advertiser and its potential customer a chokehold?
March 3, 2008 — 8:39 am
Sean Purcell says:
Dave – “It is largely irrelevant whether my experience/expertise allows for folks to actually align there loan in a more productive way, it is their perception of this that is important.”
I agree completely. The perception of expertise is the only reality. Perception in the consumers’ mind is everything. (For a great read on this look at The 22 Immutable Laws of Marketing by Al Ries & Jack Trout – great stuff.)
I’m not sure if I agree with your take on the required split personality, although I almost left the mortgage industry completely over this very issue. For the last couple of years now I have espoused transparent lending. I have argued ad nauseum about the ethics (or lack thereof) of 99% of the neg-ams I saw and created a rather involved loan presentation (think listing presentation but for originators). When I sat down with a client they learned the entire process, they were taken through my Risk Aversion Scale and we discussed what YSP and SRP meant. I negotiated a flat fee dependent on the loan and work involved and my clients could pay it using any combination of points and rebate that fit their investment strategy. Bottom line: I treated my mortgage clients the same way I used to treat my securities clients.
You know what I got for my trouble? A significant drop in earnings. I set out to save people from the “black box” mentality of most lenders and it turns out: most people don’t want to be saved! What they want is to buy the house they cannot afford and they want the made-up interest rate the “salesman” down the street is hawking. I posted on this previously and I am going off on a rant so I will leave this thought alone.
I now choose very carefully with whom I work. The agents that refer their clients to me do so because their clients are use to dealing with financial planners and advisors. They expect to sit down with an advisor who will create a loan as an overall part of their investment strategy. I do very little “first-time homebuyers”. This is not a business strategy I necessarily promote because you will see a drop in business. For me it has been worthwhile because I can spend most of my time coaching and training agents/originators with my new company.
My suggestion is to continue with postings describing the process, proper pricing and how to determine the appropriate length of a loan. You will increase the perception of you as an expert which will drive business and referrals. Some percentage of rate shoppers will see the light. The rest will quickly become clients you do not wish to hire. After all, true rate shoppers are not only a poor source of profits, they are an even poorer source of referrals. Remember: you are running for mayor of your community and you want to populate that community with raving fans. Rate shoppers are looking for a handout; they don’t vote based on qualifications and expertise but rather the biggest “pork barrel”. Let them live somewhere else…
March 3, 2008 — 10:57 am
Sean Purcell says:
Louis – “Isn’t google becoming the biggest chokehold? Indeed isn’t any company whether it be HomeGain, Zillow, Google Yahoo that interposes itself between the advertiser and its potential customer a chokehold?”
I don’t agree with the premise. A chokehold is (by my definition – and we have really hijacked Greg’s post) an intermediary who constricts or artificially tries to hold information between two parties. If the information and method of gathering are open to others, you will find yourself out on the street. If, on the other hand, you have spent the time and money to build a better mousetrap (ferry) and people perceive the expertise required to be more than they wish to expend or acquire; well now you have a strong business model.
I don’t agree with the premise that by virtue of the fact that you are between the advertiser and the client you are creating a chokehold. You may very well be providing a tremendous service of convenience or efficiency. I guess I would call this the “eyeball” theory of marketing. If you can put enough eyeballs on you, others will pay to have access to those eyeballs rather than recreate your wheel. So long as your wheel is perceived to be easier to use than my own, you will continue to serve a purpose bringing business together.
March 3, 2008 — 11:08 am
Louis Cammarosano says:
Agree 100% with your statement (other than I was posing a question not stating a premise)
“I don’t agree with the premise that by virtue of the fact that you are between the advertiser and the client you are creating a chokehold”
The debate becomes then whether the particular intermediary brings any cost effective efficiencies to the equation.
If not than it is a chokehold.
March 3, 2008 — 11:12 am
Dave Shafer says:
Sean,
Interestingly you said it hurt your business. I am seeing a similiar result with mine, which has caused me to start up a new leg of mine to pursue educating folks on wealth building. The big question is will people be willing to pay for that education that doesn’t promise to make them instant millionaires!
March 3, 2008 — 12:51 pm