There was a delightfully obtuse article in yesterday’s Oregonian lamenting the abysmal ratings of Katy Couric and CBS Evening News. The writer’s reasoning was that it’s our fault for not watching, that we’re a country of misogynists not ready for a serious female anchor. Damn us.
The fact is that, like most markets, the ratings were entirely predictable. Not that prediction is easy — obviously some people can’t even predict in hindsight — but those who are best able to infer behavior from given cause are those most likely to succeed in whatever they do.
Some suggestions:
1. Trust your first impression.
It’s the first advice I give to buyers: You’ll know it when you see it; if you have to be talked into it it’s probably not right. Same with ideas: if it sounds nutty on first hearing, chances are it is.
When a network news division with serious credibility problems hires as an anchor someone famous for her teeth and entertainment value — and with credibility problems of her own — it’s nutty.
When a company — Redfin — launches on the supposition that buyers will rush to be represented by someone they’ll never meet in their most important purchase of their lives, it’s nutty.
2. The corollary to (1): Don’t project your own bias.
Manifested in the notion that “If I think it, so must everyone.”
The Oregonian is obsessed with global warming (full disclosure: I am not obsessed with global warming). When our local MLS decided to add a ‘green’ search mechanism, apparently intended to pick up those properties with Energy Star or other ratings, The Oregonian devoted sixty column inches to the news. (See here). I still haven’t ever had a buyer ask me to find a green property, a seller who’s asked how to get a ‘green’ rating, nor have I ever talked to anyone else who has, and I live in the greenest state in the US. As of right now, there are 304 green listings in the MLS; out of 12,741.
Redfin’s (and Sixty Minutes’) bias is “Stick it to the Man!” CBS’s bias is: gender trumps merit.
Caveat: It’s easy to find bias in others; very difficult to filter our own.
3. What people say and what they do are often diametrically opposed.
Advertising Age did a survey many years ago, back when the ozone layer was the pet anxiety. The percentage of people who said they’d absolutely quit using aerosols was only exceeded by the percentage of people who still were using them six months later, when AA actually went to the homes of the participants.
Focus groups have cost more companies more billions than any other single human calculus. Moderators weigh questions to get the right answers, even when they don’t know it; and people are always eager to say what they think others want to hear.
I promise Glenn Kelman has focus group results in his VC presentation, just as I promise CBS had plenty of focus groups that convinced the network geniuses that Couric was a guaranteed hit.
4. Nothing kills a bad product faster than good advertising.
After the huge capital spent on the roll out, CBS had millions tune in who then immediately tuned out.
And I promise: Sixty Minutes did Redfin no favors.
5. Know history.
Human behavior doesn’t change easily. Green marketing has never worked unless there’s a price saving component, but companies (and MLSs) keep trying. And failing.
If Phil Knight’s axiom is true (and it is): “Yes, Nike’s a marketing company, but our product is our number one marketing tool…”, then Redfin’s in serious trouble. It doesn’t have a product.
And CBS has no discernible idea how badly it was hurt by Dan Rather; if they don’t figure that out, they’ll keep tilting at windmills.
Final note: this is intended to lay a foundation for a later post, where I’ll make the case that splitting buyer and listing commissions is unequivocally the best thing that could happen to the real estate industry.
[En garde!]
Alex Mather says:
“if it sounds nutty on first hearing, chances are it is.” I totally agree! I’m a 20-something who has been renting my entire adult life and I desperately want to buy my first home. the problem? prices have gone through the roof and salaries unfortunately havent kept pace. you know what sounds nutty to me? the fact that commissions haven’t changed and prices have doubled, tripled, quadrupled. the young, naive, and broke shopper in me finds that nutty. that is why Redfin exists.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not anti-REALTOR at all. i am just very willing (and able) to do a lot of the work and take on some of the risk, because, guess what, I probably can’t afford a home that I’ll be happy in unless I can “save” the precious thousands that Redfin offers.
now, if they don’t fulfill their promise of providing amazing service at a lower cost – they won’t exist for long. if they cant price a home right, they wont exist for long. if they cant negotiate well for their clients, they wont exist for long. im willing, as a customer, to give them a chance not because I’m anti-REALTOR, or because I want to “stick it to the man”, but because maybe, just maybe, they’ll get me into my first home.
Making you feel nutty is one thing. Making me, a potential customer, feel nutty, is another. Have you, or anyone else, heard any negative Redfin buzz from the mouth of a customer? I’m pretty sure all of the horrible free press they’ve been getting is from steaming industry-folk.
Oh and you’re dead on about Katie Couric. I look forward to your split-commission argument!
June 5, 2007 — 9:21 pm
Austin Realtor's Wife says:
Okay, so Greg clearly selected you for your writing skills (and humor), great article!
I think your last point resonates most loudly with me personally because my irritation with all of these tech-dork-Realtor-wannabes is that they think they have cornered the market on originality and innovativeness (as CBS did by hiring Couric (who I have no problem with)). The future is already here and is proving that they’ll “keep tilting at windmills.”
June 5, 2007 — 9:51 pm
Jeff Brown says:
>Final note: this is intended to lay a foundation for a later post, where I’ll make the case that splitting buyer and listing commissions is unequivocally the best thing that could happen to the real estate industry.
Oh Lord – here we go again. π
June 5, 2007 — 10:39 pm
Jeff Brown says:
Alex –
Making you feel nutty is one thing. Making me, a potential customer, feel nutty, is another. Have you, or anyone else, heard any negative Redfin buzz from the mouth of a customer? I’m pretty sure all of the horrible free press they’ve been getting is from steaming industry-folk.
You haven’t heard any negative Redfin buzz from the mouths of their customers, because it takes a staff the size and experience of 60 Minutes to even find a Redfin customer, regardless of the nature of their buzz. π
I’m in the industry, and I’d have to move up two levels to be apathetic about Redfin.
June 5, 2007 — 10:51 pm
Phil Hoover says:
RE: Redfin
Oats are always cheaper after they been through the horse π
June 6, 2007 — 6:46 am
Jeff Kempe says:
Sigh. There’re few things worse than waking up in the morning and finding, in spite of what’s supposed to be state-of-the-art spell check, I’ve spelled Katie with a y. In the spirit of the times, instead of changing it, I’ll just submit it wasn’t my fault, but the fault of whoever named Ms. Couric in the first place.
June 6, 2007 — 7:38 am
Will Farnsworth says:
>CBS’s bias is: gender trumps merit.
Couric rejuvinated the Today show when she joined in 1991 they have dominated morning TV ratings ever since. Yes, it was a gamble by CBS to hire her for an evening news show, but if her past performance was their basis then they cannot be blamed. And yes, the probable reason CBS News ratings are down is their credibility problems, but it is not purely due to Couric. She has a polished journalistic record and an inquisitive interview style that earned her the CBS gig, not just her legs and smile.
And if you RTFA (which you didn’t link) you will see 2 things: 1) the author’s “reasoning” was not the basis of the sexism allegations, but rather the opinion of a former CBS producer, and 2) that the ratings of NBC news are also down (although not to the levels of CBS), but that it has nothing to do with the crazy slanted eyebrows or any other physical characteristics of Brian Williams.
Oh, the hypocrisy of “It’s easy to find bias in others; very difficult to filter our own.”
And I’m pretty sure this is the article in question —
http://www.miamiherald.com/277/story/128966.html
June 6, 2007 — 7:45 am
Jeff Kempe says:
Hi, Alex …
First, Jeff (Brown) is correct: markets aren’t evaluated on what people say but how they behave.
And people are spending an enormous amount of time not buying what little Redfin has to offer.
Having worked with many people in much the same circumstances as you, I have some very real suggestions that may help:
First, find a good agent. Interview two or three if necessary to find one with whom you’re comfortable.
Second, sit down with that agent for an hour or more to lay out your wants and needs. I learn more about a client in ten minutes face to face than in two hours on the phone or a year of emails.
Third, get a recommendation for a good mortgage broker and sit down with him or her to learn your options, many more than I suspect you know. It may be that it will take a year to put together what’s necessary to buy what you want, but at the very least you’ll have a plan.
Fourth, when you’re ready, put your agent to work. Not only will he or she know where to look to find what you’re after, but will be able to negotiate a price that works. I have buyers closing next week on a home that they’re buying for 12% – $47k – under the original listing price.
In sum: Hire a Kris Berg and Brian Brady, pay them the going price, and you’ll come out way, way ahead. Promise.
June 6, 2007 — 7:53 am
Jim Gatos says:
The reason I don’t watch the CBS News is because I don’t have the time, and if I do, I will put it on Fox or CNN. I don’t like Katie Couric, whether she’s a male or female has nothing to do with it. I used to like Peter Jennings. He’s dead now..
Who would I watch?
Russell Shaw… Now’s THERE’S a VOICE!
Jim
June 6, 2007 — 8:04 am
Jeff Kempe says:
Thanks, Will; yes that’s the link, and my apologies for not linking it in the first place.
The underlying point re Couric is that she was the wrong choice at the wrong time, and it was clear to many before the new set was even conceived. I’m not sure I’d call her journalism polished, but she was equally well known for segments on, say, how to cook muskrat in white wine and cream.
And in the buildup the predominant talking point was the fact that she would be the first woman anchor.
CBS made a predictable mistake, and is paying.
The larger point for the purposes here: Redfin, and the risk capitalists that are supporting it, have miscalculated as well.
June 6, 2007 — 8:24 am
Jeff Brown says:
Will – Katie did boost their Today Show ratings, which is about as relevant to anchoring a serious news program as throwing a curve ball is to soccer. π
Being good at looking cute for waving fans in the street, and playing slap and tickle with guests and fellow Today Show ‘interviewers’ doesn’t translate to sitting in Walter Cronkite’s chair.
Of course, what’s being ignored is her openly liberal bias, which is one of her best qualifications for even being considered for CBS News anchor.
It never made sense from day one.
June 6, 2007 — 8:35 am
Phil Hoover says:
Not to mention that Katie’s legs are kinda short π
June 6, 2007 — 1:20 pm
Gerry Davidson says:
Really enjoyed your post! Good read. I loved to hate Katie Couric when she was on the Today show. She was so pushy in her interviews. But now my worst fear is that Katie will become a real estate agent after she falls from grace on ABC. My worst nightmare is to be her buyer…I can hear her now…”Don’t you think?…Don’t you agree…You’ve got to…” Some objectivity!
But the real reason for my response to your post is to heartily agree with you that the splitting of the buyer and listing commissions would be a very savy move. I think the buyers and sellers would appreciate the transparency and feel the love,a good PR move for Realtors. I would also like to see some discussion of the ramifications of such a split on agency issues. Could such a split clear up the “long tail” issues of a buyer and seller being represented by agents of the same company? A recent survey of public knowledge of RE transactions was posted on NAR and 63% of the respondents saw potential conflict in such representation – as do most states’ agency law. I have the sense that we’re starting to tie ourselves into knots!
June 6, 2007 — 1:33 pm
Will Farnsworth says:
@Jeff Kempe
>I learn more about a client in ten minutes face to face than in two hours on the phone or a year of emails.
This is clearly true, because in Alex’s post he states “im willing, as a customer, to give them (Redfin) a chance not because I’m anti-REALTOR, or because I want to “stick it to the man”, but because maybe, just maybe, they’ll get me into my first home.”
So I guess that maybe, just maybe, if you spent 10 minutes with Alex face to face you would have listened to him.
In advising Alex you have broken your first 2 commandments: trust your first impression and don’t project your own bias. Your suggestions are obviously what you want him to hear, but for someone who isn’t worried about the Redfin “threat,” why would you omit a suggestion that he give Redfin a call? You advise him to interview multiple agents, so why not another alternative, one of which he is clearly curious? If you are so confident that your service is superior and worth full price, then what have you got to lose? Or better yet, what have you got to hide?
Alex-
Jeff’s suggestions aren’t all bad. But call Redfin. Tell them that despite being a do-it-yourselfer you expect quality service. Get familiar with their website and how they operate. Ask them what steps you need to take and how they interact with the sellers once you find a property you like. But before you commit to Redfin or Buyside you ought to meet with a traditional agent or two. Compare and contrast your options and choose which one you feel best suits your needs.
You are already ahead of the curve as an informed consumer who is interested in the process, and your skills will save you money.
June 6, 2007 — 7:21 pm
Jeff Kempe says:
Thanks, Gerry! Stick around for the debate. One of the things I love about BHB is it proves people can be passionate in their belief but reasonable in their passion; disagreements are rarely taken personally.
Speaking of which:
>for someone who isn’t worried about the Redfin “threat,” why would you omit a suggestion that he give Redfin a call?
In a free market, Will, people are allowed to do stupid things, though they’ll ultimately be punished for it. Please note that does not mean I’m obligated to advise people to do stupid things.
The post is about accurately predicting outcomes, not deferring to another’s bias or lack of knowledge.
And there’s nothing quite as predictable in real estate as the disaster that awaits a first time buyer buying through a no-service agency.
June 7, 2007 — 8:56 am