There are plenty of places to go if this is your first time hearing about “Panda”, but the general idea is that Google has set out to target what it considers to be “low quality” content of the sort generally propagated by link farms, scrapers, and the eHows of the Web.
Any time Google makes a major change to their algorithm there are winners and losers, and you can count on the losers to raise a fuss about Google goring their ox. This time, Google has come back and said, in effect, “If you don’t publish crap you have nothing to worry about”.
The problem for those of us who currently rely on IDX to power listing search on broker and agent Web sites is that IDX content is, by Google’s definition, crap — and the crap has come home to roost: Some of our sites are down 30% since Panda hit.
This, finally, should force some brokers to address the issue of content quality and strategy, because the alternative is to pay through the nose for inquiries that Google would send, for free, if brokers understood what Google wants.
Here are some of the questions Google suggests site owners ask themselves about their content. I’ve picked a few that speak directly to real estate listings and IDX (the whole list is here). Every place that Google had the words “article”, “content”, or “page” I’ve inserted the real estate specific terminology {in brackets}:
- Does the {listing detail page} provide original content or information, original reporting, original research, or original analysis?
Google is focused on sending its users to the creators of original content, because that is generally the best user experience. Since the listing agent is the only one who actually knows anything about the listing, that is doubly true for real estate.The irony is that all listing content — the text, the pictures, the video — is original content right up until the moment it goes into IDX and listing syndication. As soon as that happens, Google cannot distinguish the listing creator’s domain from the rest, and you have just given up the value of being the creator, which is basically to guarantee yourself #1 position in a Google search for your listing. - Does the {listing detail page} provide substantial value when compared to other {listing detail pages} in search results?
Nope, everyone is using the exact same content. - How much quality control is done on {the listing} content?
To paraphrase a former president, that depends on what your definition of “quality control” is. - Was the {the listing} edited well, or does it appear sloppy or hastily produced?
90% of the time, there is no editing, no attempt to follow basic rules of grammar, and correct spelling is optional, especially if an abbreviation or acronym (that no homebuyer would search for) can be used instead of a real word. - Are the {listing detail pages} produced with great care and attention to detail vs. less attention to detail?
As it might be put by an agent according to the rule of thumb above, ROTFLMAO. - Does this {listing} provide a complete or comprehensive description of the {property}?
How many IDX listings for a $250,000 home have you seen that have more content than the product page for a $25 book on Amazon? - Does this {listing} contain insightful analysis or interesting information that is beyond obvious?
You mean beyond filling out the MLS form? God forbid. - Would you expect to see this {listing} in a printed magazine, encyclopedia or book?
Yes, The Darwin Awards. - Are the {listings} short, unsubstantial, or otherwise lacking in helpful specifics?
I would argue that listing pages loaded with facts like “Garage Y/N=Y” but lacking any context fit this description. - Are the {listings} mass-produced…or spread across a large network of sites, so that individual pages or sites don’t get as much attention or care?
Yup.
Let’s put this in perspective: Most people move locally. The median distance people move is 12 miles after living in the same place for a median term of 9 years (sellers of single family, detached homes in 2010 according to NAR). Therefore, most people know what streets, neighborhoods, developments, and very often, which specific house they are interested in.
That means real estate is, and always will be, fundamentally a search-driven business.
Most users naturally know the keywords that describe the properties they might want to see and have little patience for search forms that want them to pick towns out of a drop down list, what property type they want, and how many bathrooms.
The easiest, most direct way to get the listing information they want is to use the same search engine they use for everything else, so that is what they do.
Google controls somewhere between 65 and 70% of what comScore calls “explicit core searches”, ergo, most real estate searches start on Google.
When those homebuyers google a listing, Google (or Yahoo, or Bing) returns a list of domains that often does not include the listing broker, but they have the listing broker’s content and are most likely associating it with another broker’s agent unless they are getting paid not to.
The solution is simple in theory and I’ve advocated it before: Send basic, low-quality content to IDX and syndication and create rich, high quality content that you reserve for your own domain or a domain that is specific to the listing.
The problem is getting agents to execute that theory: I’ve lost a lot of them with the “create rich, high quality content” part because that sounds like work (because it is).
But maybe now that Google is systematically pushing the last of the local broker domains off of Page 1 while national domains like Realtor.com and Century21.com move up, brokers will finally wake up and either demand quality content or pay someone to create it.
Or they can just give up and pay to get the same inquires that Google would send them, for free, from the sites that have the heft (which now seems to mean branding) that enables them to use the same old low quality crap listing content to beat them in Google — and keep those MLS, syndicator and franchise bills coming.
Pat Vredevoogd Combs says:
Whew…this will take some lookin’ into! Thanks for the “heads-up.”
September 1, 2011 — 12:26 pm
Mark Madsen says:
I would love to figure out a way of dynamically creating unique content on the sidebar and page area of every idx listing on our site. Any thoughts?
September 1, 2011 — 12:49 pm
John Rowles says:
Lots of sites append IDX listings with easily available data, like average temperatures and demographic information from the Census, because it is a relatively cheap and easy way to add content that is tangentially relevant to the listing in question without actually having to know anything about the listing in question. There could be some SEO value simply in having more stuff on the page than another IDX site, but that tactic is not likely to help if you have been Panadlized.
From what the people who run the sites that have been hardest hit are saying, once your domain has been pegged as “low quality” it doesn’t seem to matter what you do, nothing helps.
So instead of trying to find some dynamic work-around, why not take Google at their word and improve the quality of the content that homebyers actually care about? Remember, most people move locally. They already know what the average temperature in April is. What they don’t know is how recently the floors were re-done or what period details remain and in what condition, or that the pool liner was just replaced — all the specific to the property stuff that only the listing agent and the seller know that a potential buyer would like to know.
Admittedly, improving listing content quality is a course of action that is only available to people who go out and get listings. Panda is definitely bad news for brokers and agents who have traded on using better SEO and SEM to generate leads on other broker’s IDX listings.
September 1, 2011 — 1:38 pm
Mark Madsen says:
True on frequent quality content, which is our primary focus on most of our consumer targeted niche blogs.
However, what I’m talking about is more about dynamically creating valuable content that is directly related to the specific listing or neighborhood.
For example – neighborhood recent home sales stats, nearby schools, yelp reviews of local businesses, related posts from the blog….
Either way, I definitely welcome all of the panda updates.
As you mentioned in your post, “hard work” is something that most agents don’t understand, which gives us a competitive advantage.
September 1, 2011 — 2:17 pm
Jim Kimmons says:
John,
Maybe you know the ratio of sites with IDX actually stored on their server as a part of their site versus “framed” IDX solutions. I am reasonably sure that the majority, if not the vast majority, including my real estate site, are using framed IDX. It’s not on their site, thus really isn’t going to have an impact positively or negatively on their search results.
If you have other data, please share. Great post.
Jim
September 1, 2011 — 3:12 pm
John Rowles says:
Thanks, Jim.
Your’re right, I am talking about “indexable IDX”, which is taking a feed from an MLS and using it to create pages that live on a domain. It is the only way for brokers to publish enough listings in the open (as opposed to the login requirement of a VOW feed) to be competitive in SEO, and its what my clients, regional brokers like Weichert and Windermere, and now Century21.com use to publish listings.
You are also probably right about the majority of IDX-powered sites being framed-in, since most agents can’t afford an indexable IDX solution but belong to MLSs who will give them a next-to-worthless framed solution in exchange for their dues or a small fee. You are definitely correct that there is absolutely no SEO value in that. It’s a way to provide a search function for people who actually end up on a domain that they got off a business card or refrigerator magnet or social media link and that’s about it.
Of course, none of that matters to the homebuyer, who is researching the biggest purchase of his life and finds content that is juvenile compared to what he finds when shopping for a pair of shoes on Zappos.
September 1, 2011 — 6:12 pm
Thomas Johnson says:
What is the latest ruling about blogging the IDX, a la the proprietor? Greg does a better job displaying the listings than the listing agent. If this is NAR/IDX/SocialRotarian compliant, life could get very interesting in the RE 2.0 internets. For listing agents the Panda answer is to make sure your quality listing content is up and indexed before your friendly MLS barfs your listing all over the place. I see a time fuse being written into Exclusive Listings going forward. Something like: “For proper internet exposure, listing will be posted to the MLS 4 days after it is posted to mycoolwebsite.com.”
September 1, 2011 — 7:01 pm
John Rowles says:
Interesting idea. What’s to stop listing agents from doing that now? I’ll look at our IDX agreements to see if rules against “co-mingling” listings from other sources could be used to prevent pre-publishing listings on a site that also uses IDX.
At the end of the day, the dirty little secret is that Google has already put the power of content origination in the hands of the listing broker, but either no one has told them or they don’t believe it due to the fear, uncertainty and doubt (aka FUD) that NAR/MLS/Move Inc and the rest sow to keep those checks coming. You know — “Your sellers expect to see their listings everywhere or they will get cross with you…” as if we are still dealing with print and Google doesn’t exist.
September 1, 2011 — 7:21 pm
Moe says:
Great article. What you talk about in your article is exactly what Google Webmaster Guidelines Warn you about. One thing I have learned that Google does not like is Duplicate Content. That’s All the IDX is. Tons and tons of duplicate content. I am working on my site and this article has just saved me a few hours. Thanks a million. I was about to create seperate listing pages on my site loaded with nothing but (IDX) Duplicate content.
September 1, 2011 — 10:33 pm
Eric Hempler says:
I’ve been trying to weigh whether or not it makes sense to have an indexable IDX and from this post it seems it really doesn’t give someone that much of an advantage. Especially if several others in your market are doing the same thing.
I recently had an idea I’m going to try and that is to create a Content Landing Page that targets a specific keyword with the goal of getting visitors to sign up via the Landing Page or send them to the home search page to sign up. It’s still an early idea, but it’s something I thought I would try.
Although, I would be curious to what thoughts others have.
September 2, 2011 — 4:48 am
Cindy "In Indy" Marchant says:
I write hyper local content and have for three years in a blog and link key words (neighborhoods, hot spots, market reports, etc)…I rank on Page 1 for that area but well below my fellow REALTORS that have indexable IDX’s…
September 2, 2011 — 5:10 am
Teri Lussier says:
>“If you don’t publish crap you have nothing to worry about”.
LOL. Google has always said that, haven’t they?
Love the bullet points, John.
@Tom:
>“For proper internet exposure, listing will be posted to the MLS 4 days after it is posted to mycoolwebsite.com.”
I do this. We have 72 hours to get it into the MLS and I take 72 hours to get it into the MLS, but asap to get it on my site. I tell my clients exactly why: Because I’m limited in what I can put on the MLS, but I can put so much more info on my site. Most buyers start on the internet and we want potential buyers to find the best information possible which is not on the MLS. I’m no fan of dual agency, which I also discuss with sellers, so I’m not trolling for double ends, it truly is about presenting the home in a way that both gets the best content where people can find it, and then, moves it into syndication to a mass audience of brokers.
September 2, 2011 — 7:51 am
Moe says:
@Eric
A landing page could be a great way to generate some leads. The content on your landing page will determine the quality of leads you generate. Landing pages are something that I use with other projects but I have noty tried it in Real Estate Yet. Thanks for the thought.
September 2, 2011 — 10:23 am
John Rowles says:
@ Eric: There is still SEO value to having IDX listings actually on your domain as opposed to framed-in. You are right, though, in that domains that have been indexing IDX longer have an advantage, and at the moment whatever that advantage might be is being discounted by Google as duplicate IDX pages seem to piss off Panda.
It’s all about what you do to create original content *other than* what you can pull from IDX. If you are successful in that, the reason to have indexed IDX is more about user experience than about SEO, since the search forms offered with framed IDX tend to be of the garden variety, fun-as-a-root-canal type.
If you can ull a user in with good original content, you are more likely to keep them around with a good search tool.
As to using landing pages as a ruse to get people to register, I’m not a fan of forced registration, and neither are plenty of homebuyers.
@Teri: I knew there was some “gotcha” in MLS rules about how long you had, I just wasn’t sure if it was in the IDX rules or the MLS rules. Thanks for the clarification and the tip. Care to share the results? Do you get more direct inquiries by beating the rest of the pack to the punch for your own listings?
@Moe: There are landing pages and there are quality landing pages. We know Google is not a fan of the former and I wonder how good they are at separating out the latter, especially now.
September 2, 2011 — 10:58 am
Teri Lussier says:
John- Alas, not enough business from my end to draw any conclusions. I do it because I’m working around MLS restrictions to do what I believe is best of all worlds for the seller.
September 2, 2011 — 3:21 pm
Mark Madsen says:
We’re 50/50 on the forced registrations. Basically, they can look at 5 properties and do 10 searches before the window pops up.
However, we do not consider registrations as leads. I simply have the registration there because it is more valuable for buyers if they can save their searches and get daily email updates.
We do have our properties indexed, and we’ve found that the more pages that are recognized by the search engines, the more contacts we get.
Contact requests are phone calls, emails and the “contact us to see this property” form that is featured next to each listing on our site.
I’ve tried landing pages and everything else, but having thousands of properties indexed on our sites has been the best way of meeting motivated buyers who already have a great idea of what they want.
Either way, as John mentioned, you have to add a lot of frequent and unique content to your blog before you can see measurable results from the IDX.
September 3, 2011 — 11:15 am
Eric Blackwell says:
@John Rowles – Hey buddy! 😉 Great post and good kindling for the overall debate. There are several ways that people have “gotten around” Panda outside of the real estate industry that I think could be applied to IDX solutions with a little creativity.
One is by shuffling low quality data off onto subdomains. (As suggested by Cutts to one company who did it).
But alas, simply “getting around Panda” is really just putting lipstick on a pig. I think Madsen nailed it…
@MarkMadsen – You have the RIGHT idea here:
“True on frequent quality content, which is our primary focus on most of our consumer targeted niche blogs.
However, what I’m talking about is more about dynamically creating valuable content that is directly related to the specific listing or neighborhood.
For example – neighborhood recent home sales stats, nearby schools, yelp reviews of local businesses, related posts from the blog….
Either way, I definitely welcome all of the panda updates. ”
Certain national sites were definitely NOT affected by Panda and in fact gained a bit of ground.
One thing about the Panda updates is that the COST of GOOD CONTENT is about to go up and the value of SPUN crap is about to go down.
That is a welcome sign all around in my book.
Thoughts?
September 3, 2011 — 7:12 pm
Greg Dallaire says:
One of the best post’s about this subject in a while! I now for the first time in six years have the ability to have an indexable IDX due to me launching my own independent company.
Now I’m completely focused on building the high quality original content that google loves. I would think the combination of high quality consistent content + youtube videos + plus hyperlocal stuff + high quality indexable search = local domination. Am I wrong of thinking putting all of that stuff together over time could be hard to beat?
September 3, 2011 — 9:08 pm
Mark Madsen says:
@Eric – Thanks for the mention.
Obviously, my goal with this is not to game Google or get around any Panda update.
My main purpose would be to create more value for the consumer.
I believe that as long as I keep my focus on providing a killer experience for my viewers, I’ll be rewarded in the SERPs.
So, got any ideas for streaming in unique content next to each property?
Maybe Altos market data, Twitter conversations around those zip codes, links to all / similar properties in that neighborhood or on that street….?
September 5, 2011 — 1:57 pm