Chris writes:
I’m looking to get into real estate after i graduate in a couple of weeks but i have a couple of questions that i’m looking to get answered, appreciate your help.
If all real estate brokers in an area generally charge the same fee for selling a house, how do real estate agents compete with one another if they cannot vary their fees? Also is the real estate profession overcrowded in your judgment?
Yes, the industry is horribly overcrowded, there are way too many agents chasing too few deals for all of the agents to make a decent living. This has been a true statement for at least the past four decades. 13 out of 14 agents fail and leave the business within two years. All real estate brokers do not charge the same fee. Some brokers charge 6 – 7% to list and sell a house and others charge half that amount, some companies charging a flat fee of $300 – $500 to list a house. There is now a company affiliated with Buy Side Realty who will list the house at ZERO. Correct. A FREE MLS listing. And when you buy a house through Buy Side, they will give you back 75% of the commission. These companies are already “national” unlike the endlessly commented upon Redfin, who only has offices in a few cities.
A company was started some years back called HomeGain that was initially based on the premise of agents blindly (they wouldn’t know who the seller was – but the seller would know who they were) offering to list a home for less. The agent who offered the lowest commission won the prize of getting to list that home. This company was started by Bradley Inman and he sold HomeGain for enough money (tens and tens of millions of dollars) so he can now devote as much of his life as he wants to working on getting agent’s commissions down.
Then, how DO agents compete with one another? If you are in the business and working on getting business, you somehow contact someone and let them know you are in the real estate business. Do that one thing often enough and your other problems and issues tend to resolve themselves. Fail to do it often or at all and you become one of the 13 who are always in the process of actively routing themselves out of the business. Here is a post from March you might want to take a look at.
I believe that agents (and companies) who attempt to make their point of differentiation price (how little they will charge) had better be amazingly efficient or learn to beg effectively. If an agent were stupid enough (and many were) to play by the HomeGain rules they are announcing to the consumer – but more importantly to themselves – that they have very little value. The real damage done isn’t the low fee they accepted, it is the viewpoint they have accepted.
Last week Steve Martin was on the David Letterman show and Dave asked him if he played any other instruments besides the banjo. (Steve Martin is a very accomplished banjo player). Dave was just joking around and Steve’s response was also funny and lighthearted, “If Yo-Yo Ma was on your show would you have asked him if he played any other instruments besides the violin?” Steve was there with two other incredible banjo players, Tony Trischka and Bela Fleck. Here is a link on You Tube of their performance. Steve Martin is a very funny guy. He also is a very bright guy who respects himself and his art.
It really does not matter how many agents there are or how stupidly low some companies set their fee structure. Unless you plan on actually paying sellers to let you be the one to list their house, you can not compete on price. The low point is now zero. The only way to beat that price is to pay the seller. “Hey sir, here is a nice prize and I’ll bring you a big basket of cash if you’ll let me sell your house for free.” Most people (and companies) in the real estate business are routing themselves out of the business. Some are efficient and do it quickly. Others are inefficient, even at that, and take a while.
If you are going to bother to get in, get IN. All the way. That means you are in to stay. Or better to not bother at all.
Kris Berg says:
After I spent the first five minutes here trying to get the bug off of (out of) my computer screen, I read your post. Well said, Sir.
May 3, 2007 — 6:54 am
Brian Brady says:
How can Buy Side Realty list for free?
Can they tie the buyer representation into the listing contractually without violating RESPA?
Are they a mortgage company in Realtor’s clothing?
May 3, 2007 — 8:11 am
Greg Swann says:
> Can they tie the buyer representation into the listing contractually without violating RESPA?
Yes, with mutually-referencing employment contracts, and my take is that this is what they plan to do.
> Are they a mortgage company in Realtor’s clothing?
Yes again. Here they might have RESPA issues, but my bet is that most people will just go along for the ride.
May 3, 2007 — 9:07 am
Will Farnsworth says:
Wow, great post! My GF and I are looking to buy a house soon and did not want to use an agent (to presumably save 3%). After much research, I learned that if you are not using an agent in the buyer’s position it is much harder to negociate this discount. Buyside appears to be a nice compromise between both worlds (especially for the buyer).
I have a question about buyside, though. Are you limited to searching/requesting showings in only the MLS listings they provide? On Buyside I entered in 3 local zip codes and only got 9 results for my price range. A google (base) search shows many more.
Also, does completing the buyside pre-approval requirement give you access to all of MLS with all the details or just a portion?
May 3, 2007 — 5:06 pm
Chris says:
Great post keep them coming Russ!!!
I should be starting Re/Max in two weeks, so I’m soaking it all in!
Anyway I am working on building a business model and I determined that I cannot compete on price. So I’m going to try to compete on service. Its going slow but within a month I should have it all together and my website up. BTW I will be the second agent, (that I know of) in my city with their own website. So if I do that well, that in itself may be a nice edge.
Now other then door knocking, whats an affective way to get yourself out their? As soon as I get my business cards, and something nifty to hand out I plan on visiting everyone I know. Is their anything else that can be done?
Thanks for the podcasts, I listen to one a night.
May 3, 2007 — 8:39 pm
Loren Nason says:
Russ,
I apologize i didn’t read the article my brain is too fried.
BUT PLEASE I BEG YOU
don’t put pictures of little flys in the posts. I started rubbing my screen to make the darn thing go away
May 3, 2007 — 10:26 pm
Flat Fee MLS Marketing says:
Yes, the price of a minimum service listing has gone down to just about nothing. What’s next, paying people to list their houses?
BTW The little bug had me scratching my screen too!!!
November 18, 2007 — 7:14 pm