In the real estate investment side of the biz, everyone wants to talk endlessly about where to invest, how to invest, the best way to analyze the various investment factors, what needs analysis, and the rest. However, the most common factor left out of the process is the human factor.
How is the human factor described in the real estate investment process? Comfort zone.
There are any number of issues that can cause investor anxiety.
- Not fully understanding the loan itself or the loan process
- The size or lack thereof of the down payment — sometimes size matters
- Acquiring property out of town, even out of state — “I can’t drive by!”
- Tax deferred exchange worries — “What if something goes wrong?”
- The timing of the acquisition — “Isn’t this a bad time?”
- Just making investment decisions about when, where, why, and how
Most of the time comfort zone issues can be either minimized or eliminated by filling in areas of ignorance. I remember a client who was very afraid of investing out of state because if a tenant moved out she’d have to fly there. Obviously we hadn’t talked too much about out of state investing at this point. She was pretty anxious about it though, and was dead set against even considering such a thing. Once we explained the management team we had in the cities under discussion she relaxed a little. When we immediately called one of the management company owners (on speaker) and discussed the process her whole countenance changed. She now owns several properties in another state.
There’s nothing more soothing to a comfort zone violation than a knowledge injection.
Of course, the problem our San Diego clients face is there’s no real upside to investing locally. It’s not that in the next 5-10 years our local income properties won’t experience appreciation, because they will — it’s a given. But when was the last time you heard an investor talk about the great investment opportunities he uncovered in San Francisco residential income property? San Diego isn’t quite at that level yet, but they might as well be. When there are half a dozen areas within a couple hours fly time offering income property or homes at 40-60% of San Diego prices, and with far superior rent to price ratios, why would informed investors get excited about San Diego? Fact: San Diego and areas like it will never go back to the market conditions they’ve enjoyed for the last several decades. Investing there just doesn’t make sense. It’s truly a paradigm shift in the SD market, and folks there need to turn the page, and get outa Dodge.
But will their comfort zone allow them to even contemplate a move like that?
Comfort zones are a major reason why investors sometimes limit their retirement income potential. This is especially troubling since in my experience most comfort zone issues go away when more knowledge is injected. This issue alone is reason enough to have an experienced and very knowledgeable real estate investment advisor. Who else is going to properly administer the knowledge injection? π Of course, my policy has always been to give a client’s comfort zone priority over my Plan for them if there’s an unresolvable conflict. It’s their life, their money — and, most importantly, their retirement.
The human factor most often boils down to our comfort zones. We should always take a step back to see if our discomfort is being caused by a lack of information, or because we understand the issues and just aren’t comfortable with the proposed situation.
I often wonder how many investors have figured out years later, their decision to pass on an investment opportunity was based on fear of the unknown. Fully half of our new clients relate an experience illustrating that point.
Comfort zones are good things. Ensure yours is fully informed. Once you are convinced you know what you need to know, don’t violate yours.
Brian Brady says:
Jeff,
Is it possible to find markets that are acceptable within 2-3 hours DRIVE from SD?
May 2, 2007 — 4:39 pm
Jeff Brown says:
Now that’s a poser. If you are knowledgeable about the recent Baja excitement, that might do. (not for me) Certainly not L.A. or Orange County. That would leave either something in Riverside County, Imperial County (El Centro) or Yuma, none of which I’ve every been much interested in.
Unless you’re sandbagging me, (always an option with you) the short answer is no.
Anything I’ve missed? (He said while setting the ball on the tee.)
May 2, 2007 — 7:37 pm
Chris says:
I see a very similer market in my city in CT. SFH’s are priced so high that they simply will not cash flow. Throw in taxes and maintaince and you are way into the red. Even if you do manage to get one cheap enough to cash flow the returns are low. But if one looks out of the city, up the coast a little at say 5 unit buildings, well those do cash flow(10 cap rate).
Jeff you said it well, its all about comfort zone and knowledge. Investments look risky if you do not understand them.
Well unless its just a bad investment.
Chris
May 2, 2007 — 8:06 pm
Jeff Brown says:
Chris – Common sense and the ability to discern basic principles is a wonderful thing, isn’t it? π
I wish you great prosperity.
May 2, 2007 — 10:57 pm
Jeff Brown says:
Chris – Just an observation for you. Stay away from the 5 unit buildings if you can just as easily find 4 units with the same rough cap rate. Why? Because the required down payment is far lower for the 4 than the 5 unit. This could literally result in you buying a couple 4 unit properties instead of just a single 5 unit building. The difference is really that significant.
I feel better now. π
May 2, 2007 — 11:03 pm
Brian Brady says:
“Unless you’re sandbagging me, (always an option with you) the short answer is no.”
Nope, just curious. Baja is an option, but there are too many headaches that come with it (lack of financing, the “trust” ownership, and getting back into the States).
I’ve always been intrigued with Yuma and El Centro but haven’t really researched it.
May 3, 2007 — 8:16 am
Jeff Brown says:
Brian – > I’ve always been intrigued with Yuma and El Centro but haven’t really researched it.
Those markets have never passed the BawldGuy’s area survey. In fact, they can’t get by the first question:
Why would people live there on purpose?
May 3, 2007 — 8:25 am
Fred De La Riva says:
It’s refreshing to come accross a real estate agent who truly understands the mindset of an investor.
As an investor myself, I’ve also had “issues” with investing out-of-state, but unless I acquire a property at a substantial discount or with excellent terms, the SoCal marketplace isn’t really meeting my internal rate of return goals anymore. Great article.
May 3, 2007 — 12:45 pm
Jeff Brown says:
Fred – Coming from you? That makes my day.
IRR’s in So Cal mean you’re bored. π
On that subject, I recently wrote a post discussing my area of So Cal.
http://www.bawldguy.com/san-diego-income-property-owners-are-you-investing-for-growth/
Thanks for dropping by – don’t make yourself scarce.
May 3, 2007 — 2:04 pm
Chris says:
Ahh yes the difference between a commercial and residential loan. 5 unit is where it becomes commercial, so the lenders will want 10%-20% down.
I was under the impression that they usualy want something down on say a 3 unit investment property as well? I’m not about to lie and say I’ll be living in it.
May 3, 2007 — 8:43 pm
Jeff Brown says:
Chris – generally the lenders on 5 or more units will want at least 20% down. Your area may be different, but I haven’t found an exception yet.
2-4 units can be bought by investors for 10% down until you run out of unit to buy.
If you want a referral to a lender, I’ll be glad to hook you up.
Have a good one.
May 3, 2007 — 8:59 pm
Brian Brady says:
Chris. 1-2 units, as an investment property DO have zero down loans but they are UGLY rates. Generally, you can get a 3-4 loan, as an investment property, for as little as 10% down.
Jeff is correct when he says that 5 + units are commercial financing. I have funded 10% down before but they are ugly rates. 20% down is usually the minimum but the loan amount is determined by the DSCR.
http://activerain.com/blogsview/Multi-Family-Lenders-Are-Liars-or-are-they-?14231
May 3, 2007 — 10:45 pm
Chris says:
Thanks the problem with 1-2 units around here is they make no money. I walked through a typical one today. Very nice totaly redone. They wanted $340k for it, if you rented both units you would be looking at probably $2,100 a month at best. So you are already borderline at best just covering the note. Throw in taxes and insurance and you are deep into the red. Yet people buy them…
Thanks for the information.
May 4, 2007 — 8:56 pm
Jeff Brown says:
Chris – I see your point. It’s a little lost on a San Diegan though, as we didn’t start getting worried until the duplexes were going for 15 X gross. π
I refer you to my blog and a post published this week on neg-am loans. Clear your mind and read it. Then find a region that’ll either grow or yield the cash flow you’re looking for. If it’s cash flow, I recommend you email me. I’ll hook you up with an investment broker in KC who will knock your socks off with cash flow units.
May 4, 2007 — 10:26 pm