Todd Carpenter introduced me to Foursquare, last year in San Diego, and I immediately saw how geolocation could change the game for the neighborhood real estate agent. I envisioned agents promoting their listings and open houses on Foursquare. I’m a natural “spammer” so I started using it to “check-in” to my place of business. I figured it was a natural way to promote myself in front of a crowd. The problem with Foursquare is that the crowd was measured in the dozens and most of them were bar-hoppers as opposed to “citizens”.
Geolocation was quickly adapted by Yelp, then Facebook. My rule of social media marketing is to go where the people are. What I like about Facebook (it’s a BIG platform) didn’t quite work for geolocation marketing. Check-ins get lost in a sea of status updates and it’s tough to “piggy-back” on the social proof offered by Yelp.
Yelp is a really good platform if you’re trying to find the “bus bench advertising” approach to neighborhood brand building. It’s pretty simple idea (you write reviews on local businesses) and the geolocation service allows you to ‘check-in” when you’re at a business. There is a little point game associated with check-ins but the hidden gem is, if you have the most check-ins at a business, your picture, and link to your Yelp profile, is prominently displayed (at least on the mobile version). This is the modern day bench bus advertisement (and it costs nothing). Combine your check-ins with reviews and you’re building an online brand as a neighborhood expert.
What Is A “Neighborhood Expert”?
We would like to think that the big hair and Cadillac agent model is dead. It’s not ! How often do you meet recent buyers, who tell you that they used the agent, who advertises in the Pleasantville Courier-Post ? They often describe that agent as “a big shot” or “successful”. They may not comment about that agent’s ethics or service but people like to think they are dealing with the “biggest” (which they sometimes confuse with well-known). This is why so many agents spend money on “brand building”. I prefer direct marketing to brand building but Yelp allows you to mark your turf on every business in your town. Mark enough businesses with your image, and you’ve built the equivalent of a bus bench advertisement on a highly-visited website. Brand building on the cheap appeals to me.
Does it Work?
Ask Kerry Melcher. Kerry vacationed in my hometown (alas, while I was on vacation) this past summer. She didn’t know exactly where I lived in San Diego but found my scent trail while checking into various restaurants (which I had already marked on Yelp). One patron at Chief’s Burgers and Brew asked me to take off my Phillies hat, then identified me as the mortgage guy, while we watched the NLCS (alas, he was a Giants’ fan). My barber thanked me for the nice review, and asked me about mortgage rates this summer. I hijack the buzz surrounding the hottest new sub shop in town, when people I know ask me if “it’s all that”. As people search for local businesses on Yelp, they are likely to see my smiling picture.
It Goes Beyond Geolocation
You can add pictures on Yelp. I wrote a review of Julian Hard Cider and uploaded a few pictures. It was what I said in the review that prompted an email from a stranger:
What a pleasant surprise it was to find Julian Hard Cider when I picked my daughter up from YMCA Camp Marston today. I used my cool Yelp iPhone app to search for things in the area and decided to stop at the Farmer’s Market in Wynola; Julian Hard Cider popped up on my check-in list.
This “stranger” wanted to know about the YMCA Camp. She has a daughter in the Girl Scouts (like I do) and wondered if it was kosher to have her attend the overnight camping. She found me by Google searching “Camp Marston”; my review for the Cider company showed up in the SERPs. She’s no longer a stranger and knows how I earn a living now.
Yelp is a well visited site by locals, vacationers, and folks relocating alike. It has expanded beyond the community of geeky foodies to include the smart-phone carrying soccer moms, looking for online coupons. It is NOT the be all and end all for your marketing efforts. If you carry a smart phone, and spend money in your community, it offers you a better than average chance to get your picture (and brand) in front of your existing and would-be neighbors. That ain’t a bad thing if you don’t go overboard with it.
Cheryl Johnson says:
Brian, do I have a job for you! 🙂
My company has only one review on Yelp: A very negative one, written by a former tenant who was angry that the property owner did not refund his entire security deposit.
It’s been over a year, and I still haven’t decided how to respond to it … And no one else has written anything nice to offset it.
So here’s my proposal: You can be my Yelp-Coach and help repair my company’s image on Yelp. And we do it live, in real time here on Bloodhound Blog.
You wanna play? 🙂
November 2, 2010 — 4:00 am
Teri Lussier says:
I’m beginning to warm up to Yelp. I like it because it is warm, it invites you to spread love around, and it can be honest. But it’s still not huge in Dayton and I would imagine other small towns across the country. While this gives you a first-in, leg up, lessons learned from my experiences in twitterville:
>My rule of social media marketing is to go where the people are.
…if locals aren’t there yet, don’t spend too much time hanging around.
November 2, 2010 — 4:58 am
Eleanor Thorne says:
I have a real estate friend who set up Yelp Accounts for past customers, and posted their testimonials on there. She said, they gave me permission to post their remarks… yeah but… does that make it ETHICAL to set up email addresses, and then post comments on YELP? Ouch!
November 2, 2010 — 5:27 am
Brian Brady says:
“You wanna play?”
I got hit with one too, CJ. Follow the WWDGD approach and write a response (Yelp allows that):
1- Address the problem truthfully and offer a public position.
2- Offer a personal invitation to the complaining party to meet with you to address the problem (in public)
3- Sell your service.
My reviewer was a troll; it was the only review he/she made. After 4-6 months, Yelp removed it. @Eleanor I think that is what will eventually happen to all those “created accounts”
November 2, 2010 — 8:35 am
Don Reedy says:
King Stahlman is THE big name in bail bondsmen in San Diego. Fortunately, never had to use the guy. But I digress.
His slogan is “It’s better to know me and not need me then to need me and not know me.”
Although not a Yelpie yet, I, too, have happened on the King Stahlman of mortgages, Brian Brady, more times than I had thought possible. And yes, this happened whilst searching for fun or fare, libations or places of interest….apparently all things that Brian takes seriously. 🙂
Again, for those of you who don’t know Brian, he’s made for social marketing; the prototypical intelligent, funny and always overtly outgoing type that you just have to love when you meet him…either in person…or in this case, online.
Hmmmm, does Yelp allow comments on businesses like, well….mortgage brokers???
November 2, 2010 — 8:47 am
Jeff Brown says:
I blog. I comment on blogs if they interest and/or inform me. The rest of the ‘social media’ seen eludes me as far as time spent vs measurable results. I know this is a never ending debate, I’m not looking for one. But I’m personally convinced that if a real estate agent spent 50 hours weekly doing nothing but hardcore social media marketing, they’d not earn what an OldSchool, nose to the grindstone agent pays in taxes.
‘Course, I could be mistaken. 🙂
November 2, 2010 — 11:49 am
Brian Brady says:
“‘Course, I could be mistaken”
Not necessarily, Jeff. Read my closing line.
“Hmmmm, does Yelp allow comments on businesses like, well….mortgage brokers???”
It sure does, Don:
http://www.yelp.com/biz/world-wide-credit-corporation-san-diego-2
Thanks for the awfully nice things you just said.
November 2, 2010 — 3:48 pm
Scott Cowan says:
Brian,
Thanks for the post on Yelp. I really like Foursquare’s interface and ease of use but your points about not many people being there ring true. I dusted off my Yelp account today and I will see what type of results I can get by using it on an occasional basis. As a recovering Social Media Addict I need to be careful how much time I allow myself to dabble with the Social Media. Yelp does appear to be a possibly good ROI though.
Thanks for posting here. It’s good to see you name pop up again.
November 2, 2010 — 5:51 pm
Cheryl Johnson says:
OK. Here’s my plan for rehabilitating my company’s Yelp image.
1. Respond to the negative review. Keep it short, sweet and professional.
2. Look through the list of folks who have sent “thank you” messages recently and very nicely ask if they would also post a testimonial about my company on Yelp.
3. Look up my favorite local businesses, write and post reviews.
November 3, 2010 — 8:00 am
Greg Swann says:
> Look through the list of folks who have sent “thank you” messages recently and very nicely ask if they would also post a testimonial about my company on Yelp.
Take that slow. Brian and I started playing with Yelp at the same time. I asked our SOI to review us and we got a huger number of glowing reviews — all of which were deleted by the Yelp bot, at the insistence of the Yelpers. They regard quick results as spam and they kill it all.
> Look up my favorite local businesses, write and post reviews.
This will matter more, going forward.
(I just had a house close, an incredible deal for my clients. Great way to start the day!)
November 3, 2010 — 8:46 am
Brian Brady says:
Greg’s right CJ. Be careful about the reviews. The Yelpers like to see organic growth. I can’t give you a hard and fast rule but limit the reviews to one per week. More importantly, if your reviewers are already Yelping, they will have credibility.
Upload your email address book to Yelp, like you’re searching for “friends” (just like we do on Facebook). When you see existing clients, who have a vibrant Yelp profile, contact them first.
If you are a vibrant Yelper, they’ll be less prone to “penalize” you if you have quick reviews.
Be sure to “address’ those negative reviews, on Yelp ASAP
November 3, 2010 — 11:30 am
Cheryl Johnson says:
Also, I see that one’s business page on Yelp must be “unlocked” (http://www.yelp.com/business/unlocking)
and it is a different animal from one’s personal Yelp profile…..
November 3, 2010 — 3:33 pm
Cheryl Johnson says:
Oh great. I should have left well enough alone. Now I have a second bad review.
November 4, 2010 — 4:23 pm
Jeff Brown says:
Surely there are exceptions, but my take on biz sites offering so-called reviews mirrors Woody Hayes’ take on the forward pass. There are three things that can happen, and two of ’em are bad.
Furthermore, there is so much fraudulent gaming going on, that it’s not a level playing field by any stretch. Why would anyone in real estate open themselves up to a potential lead generation site where by definition, the chances are 2-1 in favor of a bad result?
November 4, 2010 — 5:10 pm
Brian Brady says:
“Why would anyone in real estate open themselves up to a potential lead generation site where by definition, the chances are 2-1 in favor of a bad result?”
Because you don’t have a choice. Yelp must scrape public records and put every business up there.
November 4, 2010 — 5:46 pm
Jeff Brown says:
That’s terrifying, as I didn’t put that there. Hasta be some marketing person’s work. How do I take the damn thing down?
November 4, 2010 — 5:50 pm
Cheryl Johnson says:
Jeff … You can’t. Google the words “remove my company from Yelp” and you can read dozens of horror stories from small business owners. Since the second bad review of my company appeared within an hour of my “unlocking” my Yelp business page, I have no doubt that the call from a Yelp salesman offering $300 per week advertising cannot be far behind.
November 4, 2010 — 6:33 pm
Jeff Brown says:
1984 – color me mute on the subject from hereon in.
November 4, 2010 — 6:36 pm