It’s shameful the way I used to answer questions from prospects or clients. The excuse of age is available, as I was only about 27 or so. But even youth, or having just transitioned from homes to investments doesn’t wash as an excuse for my pitiful performance back then. It’s truly a blessing there were no hidden cameras or recorders in the office back then.
Clients would ask me if the rents in the area would tend to rise during the holding period. And I’d answer yes. The problem? Most folks asking questions want the answer, of course. But what they really want is the ‘why’ or ‘how’ behind your answer. Back then it irritated me no end that they wouldn’t just accept my answer as if I was quoting from the missing third tablet Moses forgot on the mountain. π I knew the answer. Why couldn’t they just take my word for it? What a moron I was. I could have been more full of myself back then, but I’m not sure how.
That’s about the time I was blessed by the teachings and example of Chuck Chatham. As far as I’m concerned Mr. Chatham was absolutely the best teacher and practitioner of real estate counseling. As the title of his seminar promised, The Art of Real Estate Counseling, (also the title of his book) he was indeed a master artist. One the subjects near and dear to his heart was how we, as professionals, dealt with questions from our clients, or those pondering becoming a client. He was especially sensitive to young upstarts like me and a few others in his seminar one day.
You first have to imagine a smallish older guy with what appears to be several centuries of experience. He literally oozed authority. I remember his face as having an eagle’s beak nose, and a patrician like stare, that when focused on you, was both chilling and assuring at the same time. Figure that one out.
Anyway, he’d been talking with some of us whipper-snappers during breaks, and was not happy at either our attitude or demeanor. Don’t get me wrong, all of us had immeasurable respect for him. Heck, he was just about deity to most of us in the seminar. But he was concerned about the high opinion we held for our own skills and knowledge — which he felt was humorously over estimated. Go figure.
His remedy was to teach by example. He took one of the students who was about to start looking for his first investment property, and asked him to participate in an impromptu role play. Mr. Chatham would be the professional and the student the prospect. The prospect began asking questions. And that’s when I begin to feel as if I knew zip, nada, nothin’ about how to really answer questions in a way that actually helped the person across the desk or on the phone. (add email to that today)
It was awesome. It was like watching the Mona Lisa being painted by da Vinci himself.
Here’s what I learned that day.
- If possible, give the short answer at first.
- Follow that up with an explanation for that answer.
- Ensure that explanation is pure substance, with no guessing on your part.
- Give an example if possible, illustrating your explanation.
- Allow for chronological context if appropriate.
- Finally, ask them if your answer was sufficient.
You’ll be surprised how many times that last one generates very solid follow-up questions. When this happens it’s often an indicator they now have more confidence in your expertise and real world knowledge and experience. Why?
Because in the end, you can’t fake solid substantive answers to real questions. Especially when they’re from folks who are asking those questions in part to ascertain whether you actually know more than they do.
Short dismissive answers given with a false tone of authority just won’t cut it — not in the long run. You must actually know what you’re talking about.
When we as pros answer questions, we must give answers so complete, forthcoming, and informative that the questioner is somewhat taken aback — positively. If you begin putting this into practice you’ll never go back to the short, dismissive, “you’re questions are a pain in the rear end” answers.
Why? The change in the way they look at you. You gave them a real answer with an impeccable explanation, and instead of getting served instant pudding, you gave them filet mignon. Talk about separating yourself from the crowd.
Of course, this requires that you actually know the answers. That’s always the challenge, isn’t it?
Morgan Brown says:
Jeff,
This is great advice. I am going to send this link out to all of my originators in the morning. Having the professionalism and confidence to address a customer concern in way that is (a) understandable (b) accurate and backed up by real data and (c) a step towards winning their business by gaining their trust, is the mark of a master craftsman.
April 18, 2007 — 9:11 pm
Phil Hoover says:
Jeff ~
Well, NOW I know why we have connected.
I should have known that you used Chuck’s counseling techniques in your real estate practice!
I went through the Chatham counseling course 25-30 years ago.
It became the foundation of how I practice real estate ~ don’t work with everyone; only those who are ready, willing, and able to do a transaction.
I even developed my own Client Selection Checklist which I published in my book.
Also got my National Counselor of Exchangors Gold Card.
Man, that musta been in the early 80s?
Remember Brondino, Howard, and Howey?
I will never forget having drinks in the bar with Chuck at night as he held court with his students.
Will also always remember his counsel about how the real answers are several layers deep.
He taught me to ask “why?” after I got the first answer, then to keep drilling down with follow-up questions.
The new kids aren’t being taught this stuff π
April 18, 2007 — 9:34 pm
Brian Brady says:
“The new kids aren’t being taught this stuff”
I’ll bet that a Padres bleachers seat and a cold Bud would be sufficient tuition for the author to teach them.
Good stuff, Jeff! Right off the WMS building in left.
April 18, 2007 — 10:04 pm
Jeff Brown says:
Thanks Morgan – I wish you could’ve met Chuck Chatham, a real life giant.
He told a story about the standing orders for his secretary – NO interruptions while a client is in the office. If you disturb me with a knock on the door, that door better be warm from the fire when I go to open it. π
The guy was the last of a breed.
April 18, 2007 — 10:52 pm
Jeff Brown says:
Phil – >Remember Brondino, Howard, and Howey?
Yup, sure do. How ’bout Chuck’s son Rocky? Did you ever get to learn from, I think his name was Chet Simmons? (know the first name is correct)
Also, learned a lot from Broadbent, and a ton from Royce Ringsdorf.
April 18, 2007 — 10:54 pm
Jeff Brown says:
Thanks Brian – but the seats must be behind the plate, field. π
April 18, 2007 — 10:55 pm
Phil Hoover says:
Never met Rocky, but got to know Chuck a little when I went through his counseling course around 1980.
It was during a recession, nothing was working, and I thought it would work to trade jewels for real estate.
I remember making only one sale in 1982.
No wonder I keep looking over my shoulder for the next market downturn π
April 19, 2007 — 5:51 am
Austin Realtor's Wife says:
1.) Padres? Blech; here we go again…
2.) Seriously, Jeff- great article! I agree that it seems that there is a new breed of Realtors (regardless of age) that are the “burn and turn” type that miss the point completely- the Real Estate Industry’s sole function is not exclusive to collecting a commission… providing educated answers is the best guidance anyone can give, and I LOVE the way you summarized the process.
3.) I would add that the more educated in the field should mind their tone- intelligence can be mistaken for arrogance, and depending on the personality type of your client, you could turn people off. I would also add that you should NEVER fake an answer- especially with investors that often come to the table with their own experience and wisdom. Would you agree?
April 19, 2007 — 5:04 pm
Jeff Brown says:
Thanks Austin – BTW, Pads won tonight. π
>I would add that the more educated in the field should mind their tone- intelligence can be mistaken for arrogance, and depending on the personality type of your client, you could turn people off.
Absolutely right on. I’ve developed what my wife calls my calm tone of voice. She said I’ve always sounded like Atilla the Hun commanding his troops. π
Seriously, what I do, which might work for others, is to pretend I’m talking with my sainted Grandma, God bless her. It literally changes my entire countenance.
Yer perty smart fer a girl. π
April 19, 2007 — 10:56 pm
Jeff Brown says:
Phil – Rocky was almost the photo negative of his dad. A little husky, almost bald, and pretty much of an extrovert – gregarious.
April 19, 2007 — 11:03 pm
Chris says:
Well said, excellent advice.
I have used a similer method while working at a marina over the past few years. Knowing your field helps a lot, and if people see that they respect you for it, and take your advice. But short answers to probing questons just don’t cut it, more so if the person you are talking with really knows their stuff.
I wish I knew as much about real estate as I do boats! LOL!
April 22, 2007 — 2:12 pm
Jeff Brown says:
Chris – You’re right about knowing your field. Short answers are often signs that isn’t true. π
>I wish I knew as much about real estate as I do boats!
As a group we’re brilliant! π
April 22, 2007 — 2:25 pm