In Gary Keller and Dave Jenks’ game changing book “The Millionaire Real Estate Agent”, the authors recommend a “33-Touch” follow-up system to stay top of mind with “mets”.
It was actually a brilliant idea – for Keller. KW agents immediately began flooding the market with (expensive) calendars, post cards, and chotchkies – building the Keller Williams brand in the process. While Century 21 squandered ad dollars sponsoring the MLB All Star Game and RE/Max floated its balloon on expensive and largely ineffective national TV ad buys, Keller Williams gained market share without spending a corporate dime.
Back in 2004, when the book was published, I felt strongly that 33 annual touches was too high a frequency for real estate professionals. But that was before I started exploring social media. Today, it’s very conceivable for a real estate agent to reach their database with 33 quality touches per year. Below, I’ve mapped out a sample 33-touch program.
Postal Mail: 5 touches
Direct mail is relatively expensive when compared to some of the vehicles we’ll discuss below – but I still believe it should be a core component in any CRM campaign. Of critical importance – your direct mail efforts need to look and feel as if they are “one-to-one” correspondences. I have never preferred post cards and “newsletters” because they are clearly mass-mailing efforts. We want your contacts to believe that you specifically thought of them when we reach them via direct mail. Direct mail ideas:
- Birthday cards for the client and co-client
- Thanksgiving card (rather than the stale holiday card approach)
- Market updates (make these a mail-merged professional letter, not a bulk-mail blast)
- Announcements (invites to charity events, new hires, testimonials/case studies, etc)
E-mail: 12 touches
I’ve written a few articles about the trials and tribulations of email marketing on the Top of Mind Blog – all of which boil down to common sense. Email is cheap and easy. This low barrier to entry creates more and more emails being dumped into our inbox every day. Clutter is a marketer’s worst enemy. Your email correspondences must meet an extremely high bar in order to maintain readership and response over the long haul. Here’s our email approach at Top of Mind – please note that our program is built for mortgage professionals, but I still think these principles could apply for real estate professionals:
- Quarterly Neighborhood Home Sales Reports (every 90 days we advise each contact on what homes sold within a 1/4 mile radius from their home)
- Quarterly Mortgage Checkups (advises each client how their mortgage is performing vs. market conditions)
- Beyond the Media (aims to debunk the doom and gloom consumers are bombarded with in the mainstream media, written quarterly)
Phone Calls: 4 touches
Most of us fail, myself included, to actually talk to our past clients frequently enough. After all, it can be awkward calling a past client who is likely not in the market for our services. But the beautiful thing about an effective CRM program is it gives us natural, compelling reasons to contact our database by phone. For example, when you send a community real estate market update, you could simply select 30 clients to follow up with each time with a phone call. Questions you might ask:
- Did you receive the letter/email? (Heck, it’s important for us to ensure that our content is reaching the recipient and is being read!)
- Did you have any questions or concerns I might be able to address?
- Might you know anyone who I can help? (Say, for example if you’ve written about the home-buyer tax credit.)
Web 2.0 – Facebook, Twitter, Linked In, Blogging: 12+ touches
Up to this point, we’re “only” at 21 touches/year… still a long way from Keller’s magic number. Enter social media and blogging. It’s virtually impossible to measure how often, say, a Facebook status update is read by a contact in your database… or a blog article. And I certainly don’t mean to beat a dead horse here… but these vehicles absolutely “work”. I laughed out loud this morning when I saw Geno’s Facebook entry about his Persian night out. I know intimately how Brian Brady lives and dies with each Chase Utley at bat. Above all, social media provides the ideal complement to traditional CRM vehicles because they allow us to connect on a personal level with our database – rather than just on a professional level. I never liked this expression… but after all we are “buying brain cells” here.
The Glue That Holds Everything Together Is:
Content. Always has been and always will be. It’s not enough to “stay in front of” your database anymore. The ultimate goal is to deepen relationships with your contacts. Before you hit the send button on a campaign, ask yourself a few questions:
- Would I see value in this correspondence as a consumer or would I immediately hit the delete button?
- Is the correspondence about me or is it about the contact I’m sending it to? What’s in it for the reader?
- Is this correspondence a “one-to-one” touch point? Will the recipient believe that I thought of them specifically?
Today, the concept of “33 touches to your database” doesn’t seem so intimidating anymore. Rather, the challenge becomes providing deeper, more compelling content than your competition.
Eric Hempler says:
Great to see I’m heading in the right direction.
November 15, 2009 — 11:31 am
Chris Johnson says:
Fabulous. Seriously.
Most databases allow for something cool: configuration of a marketing calendar and then you do searches for people that need marketed too.
Anyway. Fabo.
November 15, 2009 — 1:29 pm
Jerry Robertson says:
You are definitely right about more touches. I am a KW agent and frankly sending out calendars and football schedules is not what most of us do. It is all about content, help and information that might actually help our sphere of influence. Almost 100% of my business comes to me from my sphere of about 100 people that I do all I can to help.
I send out updates on how to appeal your property taxes and get them lowered, 1 or 2 cent postage stamps when the postage rate changes, info on identity theft and stuff on budgeting. Professional and personal info goes to my database about once a month, I follow up with phone calls and send hand written notes frequently to people. I even get out and go see them. It is not hard at all to get to 33 touches if you have a system and just do it.
Email or blogging helps fill in the gaps for more of my database to get touches out to 400 people that I know or that know me but may not be close enough to me to know if they will refer me.
I can’t prove it but I have heard it said that every one in your database knows two people that are going to do a real estate transaction in the next 12 months. If you think about that it actually sounds reasonable. If you have 100 people in your database that you take great care of and will refer you that is a potential of 200 deals. Is that enough for you? It would be for me. I am doing my best to go a mile deep in my database and make sure they know I am in business and they will refer me.
How about you??
Thanks for listening,
Jerry Robertson
November 15, 2009 — 9:32 pm
Barry Lynn Miller says:
Funny the Largest KW office in Canada switched to REMAX and although I do agree that touches count. I would have to not agree with KW being better the big Balloon gives me an average of 15-20 leads per month and I can say for a fact that I closed 6 transactions from those ineffective TV adds REMAX.com gets about 4 to 5 times the traffic than a KW website and every client that signs up is divided out.
KW business model is hire the best agents in an area and brain wash into thinking they pay more. But I have been approached by several KW’s agents and when I look at their numbers compared to mine and their paycheck vs mine I just assume stay were I’m at.
November 15, 2009 — 10:16 pm
Eric Hempler says:
Barry,
Interesting. That has not been my experience at all. Have fun.
November 16, 2009 — 5:36 am
Eric Hempler says:
I don’t think anyone said KW was better than RE/Max. All that was stated was the author’s admiration of the 33 Touch Program.
November 16, 2009 — 5:46 am
Jerry Robertson says:
Barry,
We were not trying to recruit anyone and being with KW was not the point. Anyone with any company can use the 33 touch system if they want to build better relationships with their database. That is what works for me and it is how I choose to run MY business. You are free to choose how you run yours and where you work. Live a good life!!
November 16, 2009 — 5:59 am
Mark Green says:
@GenuineChris: thanks dude. I might have something for you to check out in about a month or so.
@Jerry: sounds like you’ve got it goin’ on. Way to be.
@Barry: I didn’t mean to make this a debate about who’s better KW or RE/Max. Besides, my article is not directed toward agents who depend on their shop to throw leads at them in order to make a living, not that you’re one of them. When I was involved with a C21 a few years back, we had to put 2% of our top line revenue into an advertising kitty so C21 could blow it on a stupid branding campaign. Meanwhile, RE/Max invested millions into their online strategy and started kicking everyone’s butt on the web. If you’re getting 20 leads/month from RE/Max, I’d be willing to venture it’s not from their TV ads. It’s from their foresight and investment into online marketing and SEO.
@Eric: Amen.
November 16, 2009 — 6:11 am
Barry Lynn Miller says:
When I posted yesterday it was after a long Sunday with no afternoon nap. I am sorry that if misunderstood your blog but I do feel the TV spots give Brand awareness which only solidifies our presence online. I know of some great agents at both KW and REMAX and the truth be known they would be great agents if they were at ABC Realty. Gary Keller is a great Real Estate genius and I have read some of the books. I guess this whole issue is kind of like Baptist vs Methodist we are all trying to get to the same place just slightly different methods on how to get there. God Bless all of you and I will try better to keep my focus on point.
I’m going to start a company called kell21max Realty it will have all the good parts and none of the bad LOLOLOL
November 16, 2009 — 9:51 am
James Boyer says:
Very well said. I read the KW book when it first came out. Heck when I moved to New Jersey at the end of 2006 it got me to try KW for a while. I soon found out that KW had not re-invented the wheel, that most of what they had to teach, I had already learned and was using to some extent. Yes they did a wonderful job building the KW brand on the backs of all those agents flocking to KW and sending out all those post cards, letters and what not.
I do believe in the 33 touch method, with buyers and sellers, but most of those touches are not hard mail touches especially in my area since they just get lost in the clutter off all the other agents doing the same things.
Thank you for writing this though, you reminded me of a great old book which I may re-read during the holiday slowdown.
November 16, 2009 — 1:26 pm